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How do you thin your GW paints? I have had some difficulty in measuring out the paint, as it is too thick to remove from the bottle with an eyedropper. This means that I end up being pretty inexact when I mix paints and water.
I woudnt worry too much about exact measuring, I always just put some of the paint i want on a palate, and then dip the tip of my brush in a clean pot of water. Mix that up, if its too thich add a touch more water, too thin add a touch more paint.Originally posted by laughingduelist@Jan 20 2005, 20:20
How do you thin your GW paints? I have had some difficulty in measuring out the paint, as it is too thick to remove from the bottle with an eyedropper. This means that I end up being pretty inexact when I mix paints and water.[snapback]307937[/snapback]
Part of the reason I use Vallejo paints is the eye dropper bottles. You could alwasy find some empty eye dropper bottles and transfer your GW paint over to it. I believe a company by the name of Boston Rounds sells empty dropper bottles.
As for thinning the paint I usually don't use straight water but rather a mixture of 50% water, 30% Future Floor Wax (to cut surface tension), and 20% extender (keeps paint from drying too quick).
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Keep in mind thinning paint is a matter of personal preference, so try suggestions out, but go with what you like.
You can thin your paint with water, but that is probably the worst thing to use. Sure you can do it, you could use school paste to put together your minis too, but its not going to give you good results. Water has a very high surface tension. This makes the water want to draw itself across the surface of your mini. It doesn't want to flow into the low spots, it wants to climb around. It also beads up in drops because of the surface tension. This makes for a spotty wash. When a drop dries, it dries from the outside, where it's thinnest. When the outer ring dries, it pulls the inner water to the outside. You end up with a color ring instead of a dark-in-the-center/depths effect you were trying for.
Ways to thin your inks and paint washes:
Use some commercial floor wax with four parts wax to one part water. This is the liquid wax that comes in 2-5 gallon containers. You don't need that much so bug your closest janitor and borrow a jar full of wax. Second choice is to buy clear acrylic floor wax, such as Future, from the local grocery.
Use acrylic flow enhancers from the local art store. Add as much as you like. You can also add retarders to keep the paint from drying too fast. My personal mix is 4 parts Testors Acryl Thinner or Liquitex Flow Aid, 1 part Liquitex Slow Dri retarder, 3 parts Future floor wax (makes the finish a little harder) and 2 parts water (extends the mix without any ill effect in small amounts). As one ounce parts I mix up a 10 oz bottle with a tiny spout for use during painting.
For black lining (when you want the ink to flow only into cracks):
Thin with alcohol. Use straight rubbing alcohol to thin the ink. Load a small brush and just touch it to the crack. The ink will flow like lightening through the crack. Practice a couple of times to get the load for your brush right. The effect is amazing. This way you don't have to wash you whole model if you don't want. You can finish painting without trying to stay out of the cracks. Then add a drop to each crack and instant lining.
While weâ€™re talking about paints, these are the containers I used to keep my paints. They are very cheap, airtight, and have a dropper nozzle for dispensing paint. I transfer all my paint to these bottles, even the very good Vallejo paints. I do this because I always thin my paints, and these bottles give my enough space to thin them out the way I like them. I add about 20-30% thinner by volume right off the bat. Later Iâ€™ll add more thinner just before painting to get the properties I want.
Wow, great stuff Wolfraider! I don't normally water the paints down, I just stick with dipping my brush in water. But thinning the paints out with Acrylics thinner sounds smart, and I already have a bottle of retarder at home, I use it for painting pictures.
But regarding the black lining with alcohol, do you think White Spirit would do the job?
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I don't know. Try it on an experimental model and let us know. I use alcohol for a very thin ink mix that doesn't loose any of the color intensity. They can also be thinned with normal arylic thinning mixes.Originally posted by Absoluthor@Jan 21 2005, 147
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i've looked everywhere for some sort of thinner.. i think i was onto it at a art store but i wasn't sure looked pretty white but it would dry clear i guess
what is future floor wax? i'm from new zealand and i cant find anything like it
I have used the milky colored acrylic thinners. They dry clear. The comercial floor wax I often use to thin for washes is also a milky-blueish color. It actually makes my black wash look grey when thinned out, but it works fine. I suggest looking in more art stores that sell acrylic artist's paints.Originally posted by MrPhone+Feb 14 2005, 19:39 i've looked everywhere for some sort of thinner.. i think i was onto it at a art store but i wasn't sure looked pretty white but it would dry clear i guessIts a clear acrylic floor wax. I get mine in a grocery store in the floor cleaning products area. Look for anything clear that is labeled acrylic wax.Begin-MrPhone[/i]@Feb 14 2005, 19:39 what is future floor wax? i'm from new zealand and i cant find anything like it
somewhere, i heard that washing up liquid is good for thinning acrylic paint. can anybody here who's tried it tell me whether this is true or not, i don't want to go ruining a perfectly good model to try it out!
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You don't actually thin your paint with washing up liquid. You thin your paint with water, and add one drop of liquid soap to the pot of paint to break the surface tension. Its the easy and cheap way to make a thinned mix. It's slightly better than plain old water, but nowhere near as good as acrylic thinners with flow enhancers.Originally Posted by Tomato-99