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Yet another model from me, and I thought I'd share what I've done so far and ask for advice.
Now, I started off my flesh with Dark Flesh and have mixed Dwarf flesh with it until I thought it was light enough. Then It was pure dwarf flesh and now dwarf flesh plus elf flesh.
But I've noticed something, I think the shading on the muscles is too deep. I'm wondering if anyone else agrees and any ideas on how to reduce the problem, and preferably without having to start on the flesh again.
(and yes, yet again three pics - different zoom lengths. I need practice.)
Thanks for any comments and advice.
You're right, the shading is definetly too sharp a contrast from the skin tone you are going for.
I'm not sure how you could correct that without redoing large portions of the skin. You could darken his skin tone, that way you'd only have to redo the raised areas (leave the shading as is and make the rest of the skin tone match it). I think that would give you the least amount of repainting to do.
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Hmm. Could you do a dark wash? Nice modle anyway. Cooleo pose.
go for the wash, that wil darken the high areas and shouldn't change the shading too much, should help a little...
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Yeah i agree go with the wash
Ulrik mate, I dissagree, dont wash.
Washing will darken the flesh sure, and it is quite light, but not abhorantly so, it looks odd because of, as you pointed out, the shading on the muscles, specifically the dark recesses are TOO dark, they look black lined on my PC, darkening the flesh with a wash, whilst it will drop the contrast, will still leave the "black line" appearance.
Personnaly I would start the flesh again, a coat of white being the start point, then try a bronzed flesh base coat and blend up from there, go lighter than you intend and one or more vvery thinned washes with chestnut ink or flesh wash
Thanks, but using advice from here and other forums I did the wash. It turned out much better, although the flesh maybe a little bit too light now.
It's been adviced that I;But I'm unsure, any thoughts?I suggest a few thin washes of snakebite on the muscles (but not in the shade areas) then highlight (with dwarf flesh, then elf, as they should be darker than dwarf flesh after the washes).
Hi, the wash went quite well, I am surprised it lightened up the recesses so much.
The flesh being light is not really a major problem, the issue remains the difference between the recesses and the surface, and if you want to seriously affect the look, the trasition between the two, at a close examination it looks like you simply painted the darker areas on, there is no gradual transition between the highlighted skin tone and the recesses.
Now that is not particularly a problem most people will look at the figure on a table from a distance greater than say a foot with the naked eye, and it will look very good.
IF you aspire to get a more "Painters" version, you need to blend the 2 extremes and make the transition more gradual.
Using a wash will bring the 2 shades closer together and to a degree blur/hide transitions lines but in this case, it really is not gonna be ultra effective.
I could point to bits of some of my minis to highlight what I mean but not in a mood to blow my own trumpet.
Personnally, if you want to move the mini from an excellent gaming piece to a Painters peice, I would start at the colour of the recesses and layer it up to your current colour, but this hugely time consuming and may not be why you do the hobby
Thanks, I'll look at doing that. And for this model I am willing to do such a thing, I'm beginning to do a showcase of models I paint (using FB special characters and/or units etc) and so would like to make them as good as I can get.
I'll give what you suggest a go. Thanks.
Ulrik, post piccis when done mate.
I will show off a little, the DW in my gallery here,
see the bleached bone armour? that is layered from desert yellow through bleached bone, half way to skull white. Flesh will of course be darker but stay with me. Very watered down coats - done by starting with a puddle of watered down desert yelloe on the pallet, paint a coat, add a small ammount of bleached bone, paint a slightly smaller down area and repeat, keep the paint on the pallet diluted with water, when it reached bleached bone start adding skull white. there are between 20 and 30 coats on any single piece of bone armour.
Now here is the beauty, I have had to be meticulous with these because there is no appropriate ink wash, but look at the blue on the librarian, done with the same technique but obviously different colours, to finish off however and ensure there is no clear lines, put some blue ink on the pallet, water it down (at least 2 parts water to 1 part ink) and then sparingly apply over the surface, this has several effects:
1. blurs lines between coats that may show up
2. darkens the colour whilst making it more vivid
3. darkens the recesses.
important - you can put several ink washes over the top, you cant take any off, so always be sparing. Also you must must must let ink washes dry completely between coats
Now doing this with flesh wash would take that colour scheme of the bleached bone armour and darken in back towards flesh, If I was doing it on your model, before applying the wash I would at least take the highlights to your "too bright" flesh colour if not lighter.
teaching you to suck eggs there mate, if so, appologies