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Ok, when it comes to painting are people afraid to say what they really mean? I see many comments on absolute horrid models, and people are going "yeah that's great!" "Great, keep up the good work!" etc I'm not saying go ahead and flame the model or spam the thread with stuff like "Hate it" but are people afraid to add constructive comments?
I'm guilty of this, I have done it a fair few times. But in all honestly if I had put what I really thought, the chances are many would ***** and complain about me being harsh. It just seems odd that we do this. IMO a single constructive comment and wipe clean all the well dones and nice comments, whether it be harsh or not.
To improve we need to be told the faults and downfalls of our painting, so why are we so afraid to say such a thing to other members? Are we afraid that by doing so we will hurt their feelings or make them cry?
I say what needs to be said. I had one guy say my painting wasn't even good enough to be used on the table. That guy was full of himself because he was a golden deamon painter.... he was a loser. Anywho, if something needs work ill say so but i wont come out and say that sucks. Remember anyone who plays this game acually trys to paint or it would be a waist of money. Painters of this forums are good for age, time of painting etc... I always take into account everything. In short, I'm never mean. Unless its someone who dosn't care at all about painting. I acually have to finish some guys and touch a few up but I'm so lazy.
O and we arn't mean because there isn't a reason to be mean most of the time. If someone trys sure you can say "ya your paintings sloppy but youll improve in time" because the truth is you will. It's giving reinsurance to someone. It's the polite way to say it. You only hurt someones feelings if your a butt hole like, "holy that sucks monkey testies, never show us your paintings unless you get some skill in 3 years!"
Yes, but what if they don't want to improve there painting. Half the people are afraid to say this because it's annoying(and it is!) and the other half say this to me after i beat them. I don't paint paint good, i don't even try, and I have like 3 different colour schemes for my army. I really just only like playing the game and that's it and it's incredibly annoying when ppl complain about my painting. If you like painting go ahead. No need to critizize others.Originally Posted by King Ulrik Flamebeard
I think that if someone asks you for you opinion on a paint job you should be honest but not harsh. If they don't, then don't criticize them (even if it really sucks).
What would you do if a Carnifex "meow'ed" at you.
Some pictures of my models
I've never told anybody thier painting was great if it wasn't. I've also never came out with it and said "That's horrible!" either. If it's not good I'll generaly start with a "It's a good start.." or " Not too bad.." then offer my suggestion on how to make it better. I'm not a great painter, in fact I suck, but I can still know a few tricks on how to make stuff look better. (My case is a lack of talent and practice, not a lack of know-how.) My brother isn;t a very good painter yet, but I'm a little better then him and I've never told him his painting sucked, I've just let him know what I saw was off about it and suggested how he could make it better. It's not what you say really, it's how you say it..or..something..I dunno I'm an idiot. You can ignore me if you want. >.>'
Last edited by Edicius; June 22nd, 2005 at 01:13.
I know I can't paint, and I want people to tell me what sucks about it, then tell me how to make it better. They can be as blunt as they want as long they tell me how to fix it, with out totally changing the scheme. However, I find it extremly annoying when somebody has really really well painted model, and they ask someone's opinion.
Three Companies of the 26th Vinancium
143rd Airborne Badgers (99.9% done)
159th Corsair Rifles (35% done))
69th Armored Wall Busters (95% done)
Total 197 men, 12 tanks, 4 Heavy Artillery Pieces
I figure that since the person has put the time into the mini that you should say something nice/positive about the model. Sure it may suck but if you just poop all over someones mini there not going to put any more pictures up and loose confidence in there painting. I know myself a while back a couple people said some things about my IG that really discouraged me from putting any further pictures up. Basically be positive.
High Elves (BloodBowl)
Warseer Blood Bowl League
I'm telling people what I think. This however is the very thing that got me banned from Bolter and Chainsword.Was my reply to a picture of really _sloppy_ painted Inquisitor - who was also head-to-toe covered in gloss varnish. The guy said that anyway it was one of his _older_ paintjobs and his skills improved since then, so I figured I wouldn't hurt him since he already paints better then that. Well, mods were of different mind."Whoa, it's a bad one. You could probably use the pics in "how to not paint miniatures" tutorial. But hey, everybody has to start somwhere
Similar thing was when one guy converted a Living Saint miniature out of a Seraphim VSS and gave here a rather bad paintjob - I told him that I don't like it because even though the conversion is great, the paintjob is sloppy. Several other people said almost the very same thing, and the author has asked "If so, do you think I should strip the paint and repaint her all over?". I answered "If I were you, I wouldn't think twice before doing so". Guess what? Yup, a WARN. For supposed FLAMING. This was some half a year or so before the first situation described.
I will return there, one way or another. And then these self-righteous fools will pay.
There is one guy at our club that really cannot paint but, instead of telling him about his current paintings, we tell him how to improve.
I think it really depends on who the person is (which is very hard to tell on the internet) and what the model is like, take me, I got piccis up in the gallery, I been painting for many years, I know they are good. So someone says well done - fine I appreciate it, someone says they are naff, I know which orrific they are talking out of, some one says "good but..." and I will read what they say.
Now if they say "Try learing how to dry brush" when I have 20-30 layers of layering on the thing I know they are not up to giving me advice, if they offer observations on the techniques I have used though, then I will listen and try them out.
Now I dont think I am particularly difficult to talk to and I have made a lot of statements there about what I would not bother listening to, so other people, less given to taking advice, are bound to get snotty, equally people often put piccis up to show off/ get compliments, fine, but if you cant tell that is their agenda you run the risk of getting your head bitten off when you really are trying to be helpfull
So as a general rule, I would only offer advice if they have specifically asked for it or if I ask them if they mind if I make an observation.