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I have a simple question and am hoping to see what you all think about it.
If there was a new company in the US that sculpted, mass produced, and distributed high (forgeworld) quality wargaming scenery (warhammer/40k specific) at a reasonable price (10-20 US$) in resin plastics, would you support them?
what type of products would this theoretical company make?
Gothic style scenery might be popular.
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I would like to say yes to this. In fact I would really like to say yes to this considering that FW's prices are incredibly high.
The problem is that FW has a specific contract with GW that says that they can produce 40k/Warhammer specific products. I'm not so certain that GW will sign another contract for yet another company to produce specific products. Especially since FW would complain to no end if GW did sign another contract, cause that's just money out their products.
Would I like to see it? Heck yes.
Will it ever happend? Sadly, no.
It wouldn't have to be obviously 40k marketed. Lots of companies (read: individuals) make and sell their own terrain designed with warhammer in terrain. Plain gothic scenery, however, would be more than a little popular.Originally Posted by H0urg1ass
I've tried my hand at making scenery on a few occasions and have only ever embarassed myself . I would definitely support it (save me some money on shipping too).
In response to hourglass remark, i would say forget whether or not GW likes it. This company is marketing scenary to 1/48 scale *if i recall?25mm or something* models. There is no contract or permission needed.
Mainly gothic ruins, city fight type terrain, bunkers, etc. is what it is aiming for.
The quality of forgeworld's products can be replicated if not exceeded
The price of plastic for a final product is not $80+
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Ok, not to get all belligerent or anything but you DID say Warhammer 40k/Warhammer specific scenery. This means stuff like the imperial palace with Imperium markings on it, or perhaps Tau space ports with the Tau homeworld symbol on the landing pad.
Now if what you meant was that you just wanted to start a scenery company, then by all means go right ahead, but you can't call it 40k/WHFB specific until you add elements of those games to it, which is copyright infringment until you get a license.
NOW, do you understand why I said GW wouldn't let you make that kind of scenery? :rolleyes:
You're obiviously thinking of starting a company. And why not! The online market is huge. But as Hourglass said, you can't sell anything with offical GW symbols like the imperial eagle on it. And please, don't make products with symbols that are 'almost the same', like one headed imperial eagles, because nobody will want that. Better to leave out the symbols altogether.
Another thing is that it might not be easy to make cheap products. Although an induvidual model is cheap to produce, making the mould itself is said to be quite expensive.
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Guardsman24601 - Don't beat around the bush, we all know you are thinking of starting a company. I myself am in the process of doing it with a couple of friends, but it is harder than you think. Unless you were going to do everything by hand, which will take time, I advise you to study moldmaking and casting, this way you can start with scenery but also venture off into vehicles and other miniatures.
Anyway, do you know how much resin costs? A 1 gallon bottle, of a decently good resin, costs about 60 dollars, if you are just doing scenery, I would recommend using dental plaster, since it is cheaper(about 50 bucks for a 50lb. kit) and much less dangerous to work with. Also, you said warhammer specific, this is contradictory to your latter statement, in which you state you are marketing scenery to 1/48 scale(which is the wrong scale by the way, read this thread: http://www.librarium-online.com/foru...ad.php?t=29275 (What Scale Is Warhammer?) ) for general wargaming. You will not be able to put any symbols on it that look even remotly similar to something that GW or Forgeworld has. The scenrey itself has to be original, and shouldn't bear much resemblance to anything GW or Forgeworld sells. Anything you produce SHOULD BEAR NO RESEMBLANCE TO SOMETHING THAT GW PRODUCES! If it does, you will be shut down. Any fluff you make up to support your products, shouldn't even have similar names to something GW produces. Don't believe that they have that kind of power?
Have you ever heard of Dreamforge-games or dragonsden games(Something like that)? No, Well let me fill you in, they produced large gothic looking titan vehicles, about 2 to 3 feet high. GW doesn't like the idea of them producing stuff that is so obviously made with 40k in mind, so they threaten with a law suit, a law suit that GW will win thanks to it's copyright, said companies are forced to stop producing what they do in order to not get slapped with a huge fine and battle in court, and usually go out of business. This isn't a rare case either, GW has a lot of power, they have shut down countless companies that started with a similar train of thought to your own, they have stopped countless sales on GW because they are in breach of the ultrapowerful copyright, they are like the dictatorship of the miniatures companies.
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have a look at these guys then compare to forge world
the quality is the same and the price is most definetly right
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