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I am intending to create a 1k Empire army as soon as I finish my current AoS project, which may not be for awhile. However, I want to do background work on the Empire army first. For me this involves choosing a paint scheme.
I consider myself to be a poor painter. I don't spend much time painting, I don't have the skills, and I'm not real good. So, I need help in choosing a suitable paint scheme. Here's the kicker though. If possible I want to use one of the official GW paint schemes (see page 48 of the Empire book) but it has to be easy to paint, such as for a beginner, and it needs to be quick to do.
Ideally, I want my Empire army to be from the region near the Von Carsteins but I know that would either be Stirland, Averland, or Wissenland and none of those look that easy to paint. But, maybe I'm wrong. So, I'm willing to sacrifice that goal, if I must, in order to assure a quick and easy paint scheme for a beginner. If it isn't quick and easy I won't paint it.
I know after all these years I should be a better painter but I'm not and I just don't have a lot of time or desire to paint. If it is quick and easy I will paint and that makes everyone happy. Your help is solicited and much needed.
I've recently been painting an empire army (and missing the deadlines for) the painting of patrols feature on here and i had the same dilema in trying to pick a state colour for my troops- i flirted with carroburg, and also thought that Reikland looked good (but didnt want to paint all that white) so in the end i sat down with all my paints and just picked some out i liked the combination of. Take the advice of the army book and pick an obscure region or minor lordship and if your not confident with your painting ability just keep it simply, maybe all one colour but with different socks, or quartered tunics. If the whole army is painted the same way, or with similar motifs then it will look pretty good!
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I thought I may have to end up doing that. My AoS army will be red and black with a metallic. I know that red looks best with a base of a brown so I'm reasonably confident I can do red well. I know I can't do white as evidenced by my poor attempt at milky white for Protectate of Menoth. Blue wouldn't be hard either. I have 30 or so paints by Vallejo mostly for Model but with a few Game Colors. I originally liked Talabheim but the red and white isn't good. So, I considered Nuln with their black mainly and some green. Nuln colors are also part of the region near the Von Carsteins so that is a plus.Originally Posted by Sir Theobold the Lame
What do others think? I'd love to go with an official paint scheme if possible. That is foremost. An official paint scheme that is quick and easy to paint as if for a beginner. Secondary is the region.
My apologies. I should have provided a link to my army list.Originally Posted by Munch
http://www.librarium-online.com/foru...ad.php?t=49265 (1k Empire List) will take you to the list.
So, I'll be running that or something similar. I may drop some knights, toss in some huntsmen, and call it a day. But, as you can see it has 1 cannon, knights, Free Company, State Troops, a Captain, a Warrior Priest, and I may use Huntsmen too. That'll give you an idea.
Quick suggestion: light colors like white and yellow are striking, but harder to paint, especially on all those ruffled shirts and pantaloons!
I'd stick to darker colors.
I don't have my Empire book handy or I might suggest a specific countdom.
In case you're interested, here's a link to a few Empire Galleries that came from my studio.
Ooh the man behind BlueTablePainting himself. Thank you for taking the time to post. I know, through my work on Menoth, that white is beyond my skills especially if aiming for a milky white. I know that based on page 48 of the Empire Book: Altdorf (blue and red), Hochland (red and green), Middenland (blue with white socks and red on shield emblem), Nuln (black, lots of black and some green), Stirland (green and yellow socks), and Carroburg Greatswords (Red and black with metal in intricate patterns) use dark colors.Originally Posted by bluetablepainting
Wisseland (white with black/gray), Talabecland (red and bright yellow), Middenheim (white and blue), Ostermark (dark red/maroon and a dark yellow or yellow with an ink wash), Nordland (blue and bright yellow), Averland (black and yellow, with striping), Reikland (milky white), Talabheim (red and white), Bogenhafen Swordsmen (milky whit and purple), and Stir River Patrol (green and white) use lighter colors.
I'm honestly not sure how purple would look on a lot of Empire troops but the color is one I haven't used much before aside of my Tzeentch Chaos. But, that, blue, black, and red all seem like colors I'd enjoy as would a dark/hunter green. One of my problems is the lack of a steady hand, which means I'll never be a neurosurgeon and I'll never be able to do detail paint work.
Someone suggested a single color and that could work for my skill level although I like having a paint scheme with 3 colors because it affords me more opportunity to mix and match while also adhering to GW's no less than 3 colors per model requirement.
I think the techniques used on the Nordland/Talabheim model are ones I could effectively use but maybe not those colors.
How do you feel about one using their own scheme? I'd prefer to avoid it but if I must I will. As gamers, how do people feel about people doing their own thing instead of using GW ratified themes/paint schemes?
I think I came across what to do. In the October 2005 WD there's an article on knightly orders with rules to make up your own. I intended to make up my own until I came across the Order of the Black Bear. Information for them is on page 28, with descriptions of the Unquenchable Zeal and Fractious rules on pages 23 and 24 respectively, along with a color sc heme and painting guide.
First, this order is based in the city of Averheim over in Averland. Averland (the black and yellow color scheme on page 48 of the Empire army book) is south of The Moot and abutts the Black Mountains (see page 57 of the Empire army book). This means they're right next to Sylvania. As I mentioned the state troops based on the Empire book are black and yellow, bumblebee colors, which I don't love but I could work with or even modify slightly.
The Order of the Black Bear, however, have armor basecoated Chaos Black and highlighted Brazen Brass. Their clothing is basecoated Scab Red and highlighted Blood Red. This, as we know, is very similar to the traditional Sylvanian colors. This is also relatively easy to paint, or so it seems, and that means I'd not only be able to paint it but that I would paint this. If I desired, I could make my entire Empire army an Order of the Black Bear army and use their color scheme for the entire army instead of the Averland colors.
As I mentioned they have 2 special traits, 1 is good and 1 is bad. The good one is perfect for fighting undead because they always get the outnumbering bonus plus never get auto-broke by fear-causing units and they also always count as having a higher unit strength than their opponent. The bad one is basically animosity but for Empire but they just squabble/yell at each other for a turn. This can be tactically bad but at the same time it is fluffy and I love it.
When looking at the Knightly Advantages/Disadvantages I did want to stay away from that one. My ideal combination was Unquenchable Zeal (good) and either Humility (bad) or Pride (bad). I realize none of the orders listed in the article have that combination and that I could have made my own order with that combination. BUT, there is a ready-made GW created order that has easy to use colors near Sylvania. This accomplishes all the goals I wanted to achieve. Like the Templars of Myrmidia at the defense of the Myrmidian temple in Margritta, I think this is a sign.
What do you guys think?