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    Black Flames

    I'm working on my Archaon on foot miniature and breaking with the traditional flaming sword I wanted to paint the flames on his sword so that they appear shadowy

    can anyone give me some advice on how to do this

    Thank you,


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    I think that you will find if you go this route it will blend in too much with the figure and not be very striking - unless the model itself is rather colorful.

    A better approach would probably be to change the coloration of the flame and or sword so that it stands out from the figure in a coloration of your liking.

    The other problem that I can see with going the route of a "black flame" - you run the risk of it looking flat or simply grey scale.

    Here is an example of something that I did. I too did not want a standard flame. Instead I painted up the sword using various shades of green going to a white at the tip. I then brushed on several layers of green, yellow, blue, and even a touch of red tamiya clear paints (found at most model stores). I think the effect turned out well for what I was looking for.



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    Maybe stick with a black blade, and use a grey to do the outlines of the flames? Just an idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost Nemesis
    Maybe stick with a black blade, and use a grey to do the outlines of the flames? Just an idea.
    Now would you drybrush the gray or paint it on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by faol
    Now would you drybrush the gray or paint it on?
    Well, I'm not the best painter in the world.. so I'd probably experiment a little bit. Drybrushing tends not to be quite as bright, because you aren't using so much paint. If you're good at freehanding, I'm sure you could paint it on to a suitable look. ^_^

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    I'm a so-so/average painter getting better every month I think.

    I was thinking about using these colors:
    Shadow grey, Codex, and then Fortress grey

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    I would paint it on. You will have more control. Drybrushing tends to be rough and uneven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faol
    I'm a so-so/average painter getting better every month I think.

    I was thinking about using these colors:
    Shadow grey, Codex, and then Fortress grey
    You're already a better painter than me. In the past (haven't painted in a while), I never did layers or highlights or anything.. just drybrushed things on and hoped they looked good.

    If you make sure those layers are done well enough, I bet they could do well. I agree with brushing it on, though; but I bet you could get a cool smokey-looking effect if you drybrush thin layers on, but leave some of the previous layers and make it a tad bit uneven in colour, as if the fire design is moving or something.

    I can imagine that, but I can't explain it too well. :tongue:

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    It depends on which kind of "shadowy" you want...

    If you want less colorful flames, the go with grey, black, and white.

    If you want more colorful/bright flames, go with black and purple. I don't know how you would paint that, but I'm assuming it can look good of you used the right techniques.

    Hope I helped...


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    Actually, I just had an idea.

    Why don't you reverse highlight it. Like take the base of the flame, and make it a brighter grey (or even add a dash of white in there) then, build it up to a black tip. That way people could tell they're black flames. And then, to make it seem not grayscale, you could take a 'cool' colour (blue or purple), water it down heavily, and slop it all over. That way it gives it a bit of vibrance.

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