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So I've been scouring through this forum for a while now, and I know that red seems to be a very difficult color to paint. And lo and behold, that's the exact problem I'm having. I recently started a blood angels army, although I'm lazy so my original plan was to not paint them. Now I've been thinking about making them look nice, but my attempts have all failed. The look I'm going for is one of the darker blood angels looks. I don't like the bright red of the basic Blood Angels, but I'm not sure how to achieve this.
My models are primed black, and every red I put over it turns out extremely dark. I coated the area with several thinned down layers of Red Gore, but it looked like a dark purple. I tried putting Blood Red over that, and it turned orange. One of the guys I play with told me to cover the area in Codex Grey first, then paint the red, but it still comes out insanely dark. I originally planned to paint the entire army in a scheme close to the Death Company, mainly black, with red highlights everywhere. Now I'm thinking about buying some Blood Angels Red spray and just doing it this way, the problem is, I hesitate to spend 10 bucks for a can of spray paint if they're going to turn out looking exactly the same as they do now.
Any tips that anyone can offer on a good way to have a gritty, darker red, without having it look like a dark purple or orange? Because that's essentially what I'm getting. If I don't go with my original black with red highlights scheme, I'd like them to look like the Angels Vermillion in the BA Codex, with the dark and dirty red. An example is here. http://uk.games-workshop.com/spacema...ter-gallery/1/
Sorry if I rambled too much there, I've been awake for quite a while and need to get some sleep. Any and all help is much appreciated though.
It would be helpful if you could post some pictures. However I can tell you the GW spray is fairly light. So if you are going for a darker red you may want to avoid it. The plus side to the spray is that you will get a smooth coat of paint with very little effort.
The blood angels I have painted up have been more of the brighter reds. I use the gw blood red spray, paint on some very watered down vallejo smoke to the joints and touch up with blood red and maybe just a hint of orange. I have kept it simple and it has worked so far.
Black will always be a hard color to paint over. Maybe I would suggest priming white and then start with either a medium brown or your darkest red as a base coat and then highlight up to the brightest red you feel comfortable with.
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People have gone different ways of painting bloodangels. I am an ex blood angel player.
I collected BA for about 8 years and always primed it white by brushing on the paint to
get a smooth coat. Then use red ink. Which is the cheep and fast way to do it. And for
ages thats how I did it.
But you might want to get three or four different shades of red. 2 in deep / medium
red and 2 in bright red - orange.
Apply your deep red first, apply an ink glaze and drybrush your midtone. then water
down your ink a bit and apply another glaze./wash. and work your way up to red orange.
But the back way is, priming black..... You gotta use brown for your lower tones. drybrush
this on. then drybrush your red on. AND DONT FORGET TO BLEND YOUR PAINTS BY
Hope this has helped.
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If you're going to buy a new spray can (and I'd suggest you do) I'd make it a white undercoat spray. Then repaint with a thin mix of blood red and red ink. Add hints of other inks to darken if you want a darker look (brown, chestnut or even a little black?). You'll need a couple of thin coats. You'll be much better off painting this way- you'll have much more control over the final colour and you'll achieve a much smoother, more even finish. It's pretty quick for production line painting too.
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note these arent my pics, i have archived the pics from the 30 odd page on dipping from www.dysartes.com and these are probly just a red spray dipped.
but i am in the middle of painting a Saim Hainn army of my own right now and i primed them white and bought abottle of blood red and a spray of blood red, these are the few times i use GW paints, they are over priced for what you get but when i need a spray and a brush paint to match, i turn to them.
If you want to paint blood red onto a black basecoat, first paint vermin brown, then go to red, this will stop the black comming through, if you want a darker red then go with something like red gore after the brown and only highlight in blood red
If you highlight be carefull, using white to lighten reds will make it look pink, using yellow will make it look orange, personnaly if I was going for speed I would go with the yellow as several red ink easkes afterwards will pull it back to red
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I'll give that a try on my next test model. I did one tonite with a basecoat of Codex Grey over black, and painted on a mixture of red gore and red ink. This made the red gore a little brighter, but still not to my liking. Here's what I ended up with. The picture is kind of weak because I can't shut the flash off on my digicam, so it looks brighter than it really is.
Now this is my first real mini that I've painted (I don't count the necrons I painted, because there were only a few and I had to just drybrush them boltgun metal to fit in with the army I already had), but I could use any help you can give me. I need to go back through and clean up where I painted outside of the areas a bit, but I don't have the slightest idea what to do next. I've been reading up on highlighting, and I plan on giving that a try.
My problem is, I don't like the way this mini looks. If I don't paint the elbow pads and gloves, it looks lame from the bottom down, but I don't like the just red gloves. Any ideas on that? Plus I feel like the bottom of the armor needs more color, but I don't know what to do on this. And please, no comments on it being another "Legion of the Primed", because I know that's just what it is. :lol:
Again, any help will definatly be used, this is just the first of many models I will paint, and then strip, and re-paint before painting the rest of my army.
WeLL, I personally use a mix of Mechadendrite red and blood red as a base coat. the high pigment content of the foundation paint does a lot for coverage. Also, working in thin, but muliple layers will go a long way.
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