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So, feeling sufficiently distracted from painting that trukk, I've decided to take a look at scratchbuilding a warbike-mounted warboss. I don't claim to be anything of an artist, but plans usually help, so I drew up a quick little thing while I was waiting in the doctor's office yesterday..
After fidgeting around with it a little bit, this is where I stand:
Now, scratchbuilding this at the appropriate scale is hard, but I'm doing my best for now and if it turns out to be garbage I can just scrap it and build off a beakie bike. However, I wanted this bike to be large and stand out..
Here's some more pictures:
For scale with a beakie bike and trimmed warboss torso.
I also widened the back tire a touch to give it a firmer base.
Anyway, here's what I see for this overall:
Boss on bike, not on a wheelie I think, as I find that a little bit cliche. Or at least, a minor wheelie. 20 degrees or so... anyhow, leaning the bike over to one side with the power klaw arm on the side of the bike that's closest to the ground. I'm thinking he can either be reaching out with the klaws open as if he's leaning the bike and about to snag some unsuspecting victim in the klaws, or dragging the klaws along the ground.. which I almost like the idea of - I could have his klaws partially embedded in the ground, with klaw 'trails' cut in the ground behind him on the base - like it's such a heavy power klaw that he just lets it hang and spark along the ground, and cuts a path through the earth with the blades of the klaws. I can't decide which of these is the best idea, although I think the klaw dragging one would require a slightly larger base, which may be a disadvantage in gameplay.. still, I'm more for aesthetics than practicality. His base will probably be urban-themed, though, and I like the idea of putting a run-over stopsign underneath the bike, or bent at an angle like he just deflected off it.
Cow skull on the front handlebars, probably either from Ghazgkull or the WHFB command sprue, whichever I decide fits there the best. Two large guns, belt-fed, mounted underneath the handlebars and cow horns, with the barrels extending forward over the front tire.. The front tire, I'm thinking of putting a sort of tire guard over with spikes along the front to catch unfortunate beakies that aren't paying attention.
The seat of the bike is going to have greenstuff'd cushions, and the framework that I've set up is obviously going to be armor plated to the sides and cleaned up a bit.
Shas'O Bob at The-Waaagh.com and I are working out the details on getting me a Tau Ion cannon to use for the engine, and depending upon the size of it I may have to cut down the overall dimensions of the gas tank to fit it in as a 6-cylinder.
And, in typical fashion of my army, it requires numerous huge exhausts trailing off the back, goggles, and unfortunate grots. I'm thinking of either having a grot shackled to the boss's ankle that fell off and is being dragged along the ground at high speed, or possibly one hanging on for dear life to the hot exhaust pipe by one hand, with the rest of him trailing behind the bike in the air.
What do you guys think? My number one concern at the moment is going to be the dimensions of this bike to make sure it doesn't turn out to be the wrong size for the boss, and making sure the boss can sit comfortably on it and look natural.
Last edited by Ein; May 20th, 2006 at 20:50.
I think you should have the boss letting his klaw drag and a grot getting out of the way, running away from the boses claw, cause the big `boss doesnt care! You dont even need a base dude, bikes dont require them. The bike looks great by the way.
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Okay. I'm still waiting on getting the Tau Ion Cannon, which is slowing me down a little bit, but I've done minor work here and there. I may have posted the initial bike a little too early for it to matter, and the changes that I've made to it so far aren't really that much more helpful in terms of defining the overall shape of the bike, I've just started working a little more on the front forks because I don't think they'll interfere much with the engine.
The topmost joint (even with the top of the skull) is where the handlebars will attach. When I finally get the boss on the bike and his arms positioned I'll fill the handlebars in so that he holds them comfortably - I don't want to make them in the wrong direction or angle yet. Going to wrap some chains around the front of the cowskull. to keep it attached once I come up with however I'm going to make a gas tank... I've been thinking of trying to mount the twin-linked big shootas as a large-bore machine-gun that sticks between the two front forks and rests on the tire guard.
The tire guard will also need to get some rivets, and the forks need some detailing, but that'll all come in due time.
I'm working on making gauges, knobs, and dials for the handlebar area that should help.
I'm having a hell of a time making an exhaust tank. I think I'm going to have to make a blocky tank, as opposed to the rounded one I was hoping for initially just because getting a tank to be rounded properly out of plasticard is a pain in the ass.
I'm also not really happy with the overall look of the back end's shape, but I don't know what in particular is bugging me about it. I took a look at a tire well I made for another vehicle but never used.. I'm thinking I may replace the back tire with something similar to it. I also don't really like the seat's shape, though I couldn't tell you why. Haven't bothered to close up the sides yet because of that.
Overall, not much progress yet. Once I get the Ion Cannon I expect I'll be going a lot faster. Still, I'd love any help coming up with ideas for the gas tank or overall design of the back end, because I'm not really satisfied with the general shape at the moment.
I felt I've gone long enough without a proppa plan, since when I don't have one I tend to get lost, and a poor sketch isn't much of a guide.
I've outlined what I think my problem areas, conceptually, are. I'm also scrapping the old backend in favor of the new one - I just like the open tire more. It's made from two Buggy Tire guards that have been trimmed down to fit the widened wheel, with a strip of plasticard to cover the joint.
Give me a hand, guys. I'd love to hear some ideas.
Also, I expect the engine to be a little bit bigger than what I've drawn there, as the tau ion cannon is realistically a little bit larger. However, I'm going to put the cylinder blocks on either side of the gas tank, instead of front-to-back like on most real motorcycles.
And of course, huge excessive exhausts win the day for my Kult of Speed. The one in the drawing might be.. too excessive, of course, but I imagine I'll have at least 3 large bendy ones on either side that trail to the back.
Of course, this picture shows the bike in profile. When it's all said and done, the bike will be leaning over so the boss can get his klaw close enough to the ground to start draggin'.
That looks awesome sofar cant wait to see it finished
Very nice work dude!
Love your method and can't wait to see your finished work!
Okay. Here's where I'm at - at least, the top framework.
The picture includes my old footie warboss for scale purposes. I thankfully think I paint a little bit better now, and I am going to be taking my damned sweet time painting this model so that I do it right
One thing you'll notice if you look carefully is that I ripped out the old front wheel in favor of a larger one, and replaced the back end's wheel bay with a larger, wider tire. Haven't added grip to either yet, but I expect the back one will be the only one that gets it if I do since the front tire's clearance on the guard is very minimal.
I was looking through some of the resin models I have on my shelves and noticed that the shoulder guard on one of them was very reminiscent of the shape of a gas tank, so I went nuts, carved it up a little bit, and there you have it. It's only minimally attached to the front forks at the moment, as I want to add more details in up there (gauges, cables, etc).
The underside's open and ready to receive whatever bitz I decide to throw in there, but overall I think the shape is satisfying. The seat'll get a little padding, probably some structural support underneath in the form of tubular framework.
Still, now it's just a matter of filling in detail underneath.
looks great cant wait to see it done
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What will you use for the engine and stuff like that because its a little skinny. But over all it looks good:yes:
A tau ion cannon will be filling in as the engine under the tank, Derka.
I've only done small bits this morning. Added some pads to the seat and tried to add a bit of stitching to the sides - I'm going to clean the edges of them up a little bit with a hobby knife later. Also added some gauges up front, but there'll be more before this is done. And I chained the cow skull down just because.
The rest of what I'm going to try and do today are to seat the boss's torso in place, get his legs cut to straddle the seat properly, and probably build the bike frame that goes underneath the seat.