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Alright guys, I picked up alot of deathguard at my local auction and I wanna paint them. I know the standard colors that are used on deathguard (catachan green, rotting flesh) but I'm looking to further my painting techniques as most of what I do for highlighting and shading is drybrushing and inking. I'm not bad at painting, most people at my local workshop love my stuff and say that i'm really good. To me however, I am not good enough. I want to learn to paint Golden Deamon quality stuff. I'd like my whole deathguard to LOOK like i've painted them to enter a GD competition (at gamesday I saw a fair amount of garbage looking GD entries though, so I don't want to paint like them, and there were alot on par with how I paint, but I wanna paint like the guys who can paint rock to look like real rock etc.) Anyway, I'm looking for tips, tricks, pointers, REALLY good tutorials that maybe are online and don't have your standard vagueness of "paint his ink wherever you 'feel' it is right.
Also, here's some pics of models I have painted from my nids and the one deathguard test I have done (I'm mildly happy with him but he's not GD quality.
That's my death guard, not finished being based or anything as I'll probably be stripping him anyway if I manage to pull off a better paint job. Comments I have recieved thus far:
-Highlight the wood on his bolter with a lighter brown such as graveyard earth
-Put glossy varnish on the goggles of his mask
-redo the bones using more brown and bleached bone (I started from snakebite and worked my way up to white but you'd never even notice
Here's some Nids:
My fex, who i'm rather pleased with, but he could still be improved, I find the bonniness on his plates.. the lines for the boniness rather.. far too thick even though I used the fine detail brush. His base isn't finished either.. and I probably could have picked better places to take pictures.... like not at my work in the shop.
They look shiny.. but that's mainly because of the flash from the camera glaring off the ink used to darken the recesses... the genestealers were my original tests and thus look the worst of all my models. But meh.
That's just some gaunts. 2 really bad picks, the one without the flash is too far, the one with the flash.. well.. it has flash..
That gives you an idea of where i'm at in terms of basic knowledge in painting.. so again..
any advice to up myself to GD quality?
Last edited by jackofasses; May 28th, 2006 at 21:42.
I think you have a good scheme right there. But let me point something out to you. Death Guard have been in the Eye of terror Worshipping Nurgle for 10,000 years. they shouldnt have any shiny bitz on them unless its ooze or some mutation. If my parents ever get a good camera ill show you some of mine.
Well it's your standard green paint scheme, not like it's anything super original. I'm just looking for a greater quality. In my eyes, that model would never make it to a golden deamon entry level. I want to have it be better. I want ways to improve.Originally Posted by DerkaDerka
I think for golden daemon you need to go slightly bolder.. All the successful GD entries I've seen use a lot of extreme highlighting and shading/black lines to geta really bold look to them. I guess it's just the style GW likes.
Your stuff is nice, but the colours are quite blurred and muted. The fex definately comes close.. difficult to make out whether the lines really are too thick from the picture, but they certainly make it look much more Golden Daemonesque.
I'm also told NMM is highly prized, though if you're doing deathguard, you might be able to avoid it by doing a really good simulated rust effect instead.
Remember that a lot of people entering GD don't intend to paint armies. They just paint one model, or perhaps a squad, and spend a lot of time on it. If you want to paint an army to that high a quality, it could take a very, very, very long time.
Last edited by The_Giant_Mantis; May 29th, 2006 at 01:11.
Well If you want some advice then all of the GD entries I have seen except for the young bloods arent the stock model. They usually have something unique to them. If i were you i would add a little more browns. I really like using a chestnut ink on my DG models because it gives it a sickly look and makes it look old an slimy. The brown you have for the skin flaps streched over the skin should go. I would give it a dwarf flesh. then a elf flesh with a watered down chest nut ink on them. Also do something with the base because they also look at bases.
Just a little help. Also how did you paint ur tyranids, did u dip them?
Nids are fairly easy.Originally Posted by DerkaDerka
Here are my steps
-GW sand on base
-Basecoat with Scorched brown
-Apply Brown ink liberally over all the model trying to avoid the carapace
drybrush model with Scorched brown to lighten up the raised parts of the exo while leaving recesses and stuff dark
-probably going to super highlight with a mix of scorched brown and graveyard earth
-Touch up carapce with scorched brown
-highlight carapace with bestial brown
-highlight again with graveyard earth
-hightlight over that with desert yellow to give it a more golden feel, i do this with it being pretty watery though so that multiple layers of desert yellow will be needed, that way it's really only the very edge of the carapce that gets a golden look, or the raised parts on the spine bank carapace
Claws, spikes, etc:
highlight with watered down kommando khaki repeating as needed to further lighten higher areas or pieces closer to the edges
-highlight with watered down bleach bone repeating as needed to further lighten higher areas or pieces closer to the edges
-black ink to get into the recesses where the skull meats skin or the bones meet gums or whatever and eye sockets
-brown ink over that so it makes more of a transition from black to brown
rehighlight with graveyard earth
-highlight with bleached bone
-Highlight teath with skull white.
-equal mix of dwarf flesh and tentacle pink.
The fex is also magnetic, I'll try and get another picture with his tusked head on.. he looks even more bad***. Maybe even put up a pic of my converted ravener later as well.
In other words, nope, I don't dip them... man I could have saved alot of time just saying no.. dah well.
If you want to highlight your model to GD standard step away from drybrushing and try layering. Or blending. Because drybrushing can make your model look bold.
DonÂ´t mess with the dicegod
If only I knew what that meant :p.Originally Posted by dicegod
Here is a question for you - are you painting Deathguard or are you painting Nurgle chaos marines. Deathguard colors are actually a bone colored armor with a camo green trim.
I myself have painted up quite a few Nurgle figures and have developed my own color scheme for them. I paint the main armor striated lines starting with vallejo model color cayman green, washing with brown ink, then applying the lines with a base again of cayman green, followed by lines of camoflauge green, and finally dead flesh.
For the trim I end up with a gold color. I start with bronze, wash it with brown ink (very watered down), then the darkest gold, a purple ink wash (very watered down), and then lastly the lightest gold.
I agree with some of the other comments. To add more interest to your figures they should be defined better. Darklining and bolder colors will definitely give it that eye catching quality. Drybrushing tends to have a chalky look to it. The overall effect may be that it ends up looking dull.
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While I am no master myself Jack, I am going to second dicegod on this one. If you look at your pic of your deathguard, can you see how it sort of looks dusty/grainy? This is the result of drybrushing. I am being a bit hypocritical(sp?) here by suggesting some techniques that I am not really good at but am attempting to get better. So some techniques you need to start and get better with is layering, blending and glazing.
For some tutorials you might as well start with one of the best painter out there...
When looking for more tips its also get to have a look at each persons links to see what else is out there. I know slorak has a great tutorial on deathguard skin, which might be interesting to you........
Hope I was some help.
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