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I am new to the hobby.
I have the Space Marine Command Squad. I am working on the Standard/Guidon Bearer that is the SM carrying the big flag. Forgive me if I don't know the correct terms.
I know that elaborate disigns or hearaldry goes on the flag. How do you all deal with this?
You might want to be a bit more specific in your question. What is your true issue? 1)How to paint the designs you see in WD or the 40K rulebook, 2)which design to choose, + how to settle on a chapter (which is the basis for all of the heraldry), 3) or are you a bad painter and wondering about alternatives to hand painting the banner?
Without the specific question we can only give general answers, but here goes;
1) The best way I know of for painting a large banner is to do a few drawings ahead of time, start at 2x the scale you'll be painting, that way you'll be able to work out the design.
Do a final to-scale drawing on paper to make sure you're happy with it and it isn't too busy when reduced to 28mm size. (you might even want to consider copying it and painting the copy as a trial run for the real figure). Pencil the final design onto the primed plastic banner using a very fine mechanical pencil (.005). Paint the design in using a fine detail brush.
2) The heraldry of the space marines is pretty well laid out in the individual codicies (if you are using a special chapter like the Blood Angels or Space Wolves). For general chapters, you're pretty much free to do whatever you like. As for determining which chapter to use, you've got to determine what you want out of them (if you're playing the game) or at least what imagery and colour scheme you like (if you're not gaming). This will help narrow down your choices pretty dramatically.
Here are a few websites that may help you in your quest for an appropriate image;
The second site is actually for Dawn of War, but the guy's done some splendid work that might aid you in your decision making.
3) If the problem is you CAN'T paint there's one easy option. Cut away the plastic banner from the standard pole. Draw up your design on a sheet of heavy paper (ideally draw it up on the computer and print it out) and then glue the banner to the pole. The paper should be given a good coat of laquer to stiffen it up. This option is really the least satisfactory in my opinion, paper banners tend to look 'fake' compared to their hand painted counterparts.
Sorry to be so broad in my advice, perhaps you could narrow your question down.
Last edited by artificer; May 29th, 2006 at 20:10.
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i agree with artificer unless you specify we cant exactly help you. I guess the best advice with how to deal with heraldry or designs to to look through some other peoples work. You have also got to make sure you pick the right chapter and your SM colours needs to fall in with this.
vague i know but i hope it gives you a tad of help.
Thank you all. The respones helped me a great deal. I paint well with an airbrush but have little experience with brushes.
I thought about going the decal route. But have yet to find any for sale. I probably will create the decals. The Testor's kit work well. Maybe I can get the images from a codex or elsewhere and print.
I have found what I have been looking for and they look printer friendly. I post them as others like me may need them.
If you have access to a computer you can print out banners to the right size and hey presto instabanner!
You could even design your own that way it's more personal to you and your mini!
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Actually, here is a template that I have made and posted on this site:
This has banners of all different sizes to use.
I find that the easiest way is to draw the design in pencil as a guide, then paint it once you're done. If you want, you can always use this and "draw" the design on your comoputer (and color it there as well). Then you just print it on a color printer. Whatever floats your boat.
If you are using the hard plastic banner that comes with the command squad, then I would paint the banner white. Then draw your design in pencil as a guide. Once done, you can then paint the design (staying in the lines). That's how I did this one:
Hope that helps!
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Originally Posted by RJSuperfreaky
Nice work on that banner! Thank you for the templates.