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Before I begin, let me assure you all I made an attempt to search the forums on my specific problem, and had trouble finding something. Apologies if it's in an obvious place, and I missed it.
Anyway, I'm not a total newbie to painting, having done 20-35 models (including vehicles), many of which have been finished from priming up to highlighting.
My big question: I'm now living in an apartment, and do not feel comfortable just letting loose with a spray can (I use GW chaos black primer, in case anyone cares), and while I have friends and family I can visit with yards, it's a pain in the neck, and I can't help but wonder how/if it is practical to prime a model by hand. Naturally, an entire IG troop platoon is out of the question like this, I imagine, but for smaller armies (like the DH I am collecting) it's a wee bit more feasible.
My other problem: using an oil-based primer with a brush might not work either, as I don't have an abundance of turpentine or other brush-cleaning chemicals available, and I don't know the best (read: legal and environmentally conscious) method would be to dispose of those chemicals when I'm done.
Soooo... is there a way to prime using acrylics, be it on plastic, metal, or a combination of the two? I have read a lot of threads on this forum about not priming at all, and I agree with the crowd that says priming is definitely necessary.
One last thing: I read on another forum someone had decent success painting with gray paint (I assume codex or fortress gray or something) then washing the whole thing in black ink, thus simulating the whole "black in the cracks" thing to set it up for painting. Anyone ever try this?
Most paint brands now produce a primer that compliments their paints - mine does. Mine is an acrylic primer (white or black) that can be airbrushed or hand painted on.
It provides a 'toothed' surface that allows the following colours to adhere better.
I use thinned down black paint and a drop or two of floor polish, this works better than thinned ink IMHO. Ink tends to leave tide marks and can be patchy, the paint having more/larger pigment provides better coverage. Ink is good for smaller areas though.
Whatever you feel does the job - play around.
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What kind of primer do you use, and do you know how much it costs and where I can find some?
I may have a solution for you. In the past I have used a product from Folk Ark called glass and tile medium. It is a clear priming agent that will work on both metal and plastic figures just fine. It comes in a small bottle in almost a gel quality. Mixing it 50/50 with water and then adding a little ink works very well. It takes about 24-72 hours to properly set but dries so tight against the figure that none of the details will be lost.
The only issue I had with using this was that I had pre-mixed a bottle with 50/50 mix ahead of time and worked off that. When I got towards the end of the bottle there was probably an uneven mixture between the two parts and the result was a crackle effect on the figure. Definitely something not desired. So if you desire to try this method I would strongly urge you to mix as you use it.
As to where I bought it: Michael's Art/craft store. I am sure any craft or art store would carry it.
I pretty much gave up on it simply out of laziness. I actually prefer it and would probably continue to use it on one shot figures. When it works it is the best primer that I have ever used. I also found that when mixed 50/50 with water (no ink added) it makes a very good varnish that is dead flat and super durable. Again don't premix or the nasty crackling will occur.
As for spraying in an apartment. I used to spray in both an apartment and a house before moving out to my current game/hobby room. I would spray into a cardboard box. If you leave a window open and leave the room soon after spraying I don't believe any harm will come of it. It might smell for a short while but so it goes. How often do you really spend spraying the primer anyway?
Just my thoughts!
Last edited by slorak; June 27th, 2006 at 06:47.
Thanks for that. Just checked out the link. Just one question: How does the clear stuff clean up? Is it acrylic?
I am not sure if it is acrylic per se but it does clean up with water just fine. You just don't want to leave it on your brushes over night or anything!