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Ive been reading in a few threads how people have been paying for people to paint their minitures, and there is actually people making a business out of it. Now everyone has their own opinions and i actually would like to know everyones opinion about all this. My opinion is that you should paint your own minitures because they give you practise and also its your work and you can show all your friends and family how much you have improved from the first miniture you have painted. You will appreciate it , but when someone else paints it for you, you dont get the same apreciation as you would with your own. Now this is probably the wrong forum and im sorry if it is, but i would like to see everyone else's opinion on this.
I recon there so much more fulfilment and excitement when you finish painting the Xpts army and see it for the first time on the battlefiled. It's one of the major parts of collecting an army. There's an excitement that can't be bought. I'm not trying to offend those who buy or make a living of painting minatures, I just think that there's that added element that makes the games so much better IMO. Like you said Suferchick, there's also the aspect of seeing how your painting skills improve over time. You can really say that this is my army.
Well, if I had all my miniatures painted by someone else, I really don't know how much they'd be worth to me. A lot of the fun I have in 40k is playing with my massive army (that I assembled and painted) on the tabletop (the tabletop I built), and how awesome that is. So if someone else painted my minis, it'd take a lot of that away. And that would be lame
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I think everybody can paint, obviously to different standards.
An army is truly yours if you have painted it yourself, like others have mentioned there is a sense of achievement when painting your own army.
There is the matter of time, though I think that if you have time to play you probably have time to paint as well.
I'm not ragging on those who buy painted armies, if you can afford to pay someone to paint your army, go for it. There is probably a decent argument that the money you save on not buying paints, brushes and the myriad expensive bits and pieces, could easily fund the cost of pro painting. I know I have and continue to spend a small fortune on painting supplies.
I just think you are missing out on an experience, both in skill building and self achievement.
You can then also post them on forums and bask in the glow of your peers admiration and cultivate an inflated sense of self importance
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i have to say i agree... its apart of the process of collecting an army.
cutting it up and putting it together
playing with it.
I am going to step in and play devils advocate here:
Being a painter for hire I may have a skewed perception of this however this is my take on it. Some people are not very good painters. More so they don't enjoy painting but really enjoy the game. Why should they spend all the time it takes to paint an army that they don't really appreciate and that they feel is substandard? Throw in time to the equation and it makes perfect sense to buy a painted army. What if this person lives a regular family life. Works 40+ hours a week, has kids, and only gets a chance to hobby or game a couple times a week if that? Wouldn't it be in his best interest to get a pre-painted army so he just needs to show up for the game?
I myself love to paint (obviously) and like to spend time assembling my army, etc. but I see a perfectly good reason to buy painted figures. While it is true that anyone can pick up a brush and apply paint - I don't think that everyone is a Picasso and many if not most don't really care to paint at all. That might be a big reason why when you go to a game you see a ton of plastic or primed figures on the battlefield.
So if you have the income and the desire to buy painted figures I am all for it. Just like any kind of collector could you not truly appreciate something that you bought just as much as if you had created it yourself? I think it is all perspective. Those that like to paint do so, others buy if they can.
I think that people should paint their own armies. The feeling that you get from your achievement is great no matter how good or bad it is. You really get a sense of pride in your army and your work. I think to an extent, it seperates the gamers and the hobbiest. The hobbiest paints it and plays with it, a gamer just plays with it.
I can understand some cases where people don't have time to paint because of work but I think you can just as easily make time. The time that you have to play after your army has been painted for you is the time you could use to paint the army yourself. It may not be as fun for everyone but it is worth it. When someone walks in and says 'wow' you can say you did that. And I'm not only talking about other gamers, I think when your relatives that don't know much about it or your friends walk in they are always intregued and fascinated by what you have done.
I can't, however, agree with the arguement of a person not being a good painter. Honestly, if I look back to the first mini I painted, back then when I thought to myself "wow, I did good" now I think it is rubbish, but the thing is, if I didn't paint my minis myself, I would never have improved and those first minis I painted will be stripped and repainted when 7th ed. Warhammer comes along.
Anyway, thats my 2 cents
Exactly i have my friends come over and go wow did you paint that or is that how they come, and i can easily say to them yeah i did that you get so much pride and self acheivement out of the whole thing. I currently am studying year 12 and about to also do tafe part time, but on the weekends my bf and I always have time to have a sit down and paint and also come up with new and improved army lists together. I think when painting yourself its alot more fun having someone painting beside you and giving you incouragement. In August i am buying a wood elves miniture jsut for the fun of painting cause i want to put something on display, and i knwo it wont be demon award standard but it will be great to see my acheivement sittign in a glass case
A lot of what you guys are saying are personal feelings towards the hobby. It is your perspective. This might very well not be the case for someone else. There are a lot of things that I don't like to do or are not very good at and don't have the time to do. Sometimes you need to pick and choose.
Also on the good painter bad painter front. You can be a bad painter and never really improve. Sure you will improve to some extent but maybe not to the level that you could be satisfied with. I also beg to differ with the time to paint theory. If you get someone to paint your army it could very well be done much quicker than you could personally churn out and to a much higher standard.
I also think that you can take pride in painted miniatures. Someone will still probably come up and ogle the figures no matter if you painted them or not. Put yourself in the shoes of someone who is absolutely dreadful at painting. They buy a figure that is very well painted and get lots of compliments - Could they not be happy with that? Would they get the same happiness from their own figures that look horrible and nobody comments on at all?
I think bottom line there are several degrees of interest in this hobby and room for everyone. Those that like to paint, those that like to game, and everyone in-between.
I'm not trying to make people feel bad but i have no art talent in my body but i still made myself paint so i could feel proud of myself. I'm jsut asking for peoples comments on it, but if someone got commented on a bought painted miniture wouldnt they feel ashamed of how they didnt do that and telling someone that like then its not as great.