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Ok, this is dumb. How do you get the proportions right when making wire armature for your sculpts?
I've been long wanting to try sculpting a miniature completely from scratch (I think my current sculpting skills are enough for the task), except I couldn't figure out the proportions for the armature.
its really rather simple really (no offence) make your little man based on what looks right to your eye except make am eye judgement as to what it will look like (filled with clothing and and a head) ie make allowance for the addition of thye green stuff .... the neat trick is once you have a rough armature that looks right to the eye then use this as the basis for a dolly system
ie cast this rough liitle figures in resin ie standing knelling etc without clothes once you have done this your good to go ?
or if you want to get scentific measure yourself cut off the wire at wrist and ankles and now you have a dummy feet and hands have no armature support ( otherwise they would look like MR BLOBBY) head you make seperate now bobs your uncle hope this helped ?
if you want to design from the ground up and be exact you can find a picture of the model or model type you want to recreate your way, then determine the base size (i think GW site has a list of base sizes for each model) and scale the dimentions from that (ie, if on the picture this is 1 inch then that is __ inches)
but thats going overboard to some, and they get the stick model skeletons as stated above
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Do what looks right and make up fluff for whatever goes wrong
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You dont need to have sculpting skills. Just try it. The first time i ever used greenstuff, i sculpted a treeman. Just go for it.
1. I sculpt =][= scale models and use exising models as a basis for length of parts
2. as others have said you can buy armatures - I dont but hey
3. Tip for the day - if you are not using a purchased armature with gaurenteed sizes, avoid symetry in the model, have one leg forwards and the other back, have one arm up ad the other down - this hides disproportion
Everything you have been told is a lie!
Though I am not a master sculptor or anything, I am an artist ( illustration, comics, etc ) so I know a bit about proportion.
If doing it yourself, a regular person should be between 5-6(girl) and 6-7(guy) heads tall. If they are a really big guy/girl, you don't increase the head size, you make the body 6-7(girls) or 7-9 or 10(guy) heads tall.
If making your own wire armature, you might want to find a front body proportion diagram. You could find one of these easy by looking up drawing tutorials. Shrink the image to the size you need, and print. Now use this as a pattern for making a wire armature. Once the armature is is proportioned, you could then bend it into whatever pose you want. Just notice a bit where the joints are, and keep the beding in those places.
Also, for fun and usefulness, when you figure out a pose to do, get in front of the mirror and try it yourself ( if possible ). It will help you know where the bends, bulges, and strains are. Also lets you feel where the weight is. Knowing this helps me in drawing. Being able to portray wieght, balance, and motion are really big in static mediums, and help bring things to life.
Since I'm here and rambling, here's some other things that might help.
If your going all out for action, always try and put the subject at the extreme positions of any action. ( Like swinging a sword, pose the model with sword cocked all the way back ready to swing, or at the apex of the sword swing. )
People rarely, if ever, keep equal weight on both feet. Even when just standing there.
People rarely stand doing nothing ( unless in formation ). Even if they are they usually dig in there pocket, hike up there pants, fiddle with a button, stare intently at something... somewhere. So even the truly mundane has some action to it.
There are other fun things to go over to, but I can't think of them right now.
Hope this helps, after my army is painted I hope to start doing some sculpting myself. Looks like lots of fun
Good luck to you!
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