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This is my latest Commission - high game standard Death Company Assault Marines and Chaplain. These guys were a blast to paint. With the limited paint scheme I was able to finish these guys up in about a total of 10 hours.
The contrast of the bone, silver, and red really worked well next to the black. I was able to keep a very clean look without having to add highlights to the black. I think that if you didn't have the contrasting colors you would have to add some highlights to the black to get a decent look.
I really like the look of the new Chaplain and am very pleased to have had the opportunity to work on him. The gold trim was done with brass base, washed with brown ink, followed by the darker of the 2 golds, and finally some highlights with the lightest gold.
Bone areas were based with bone, washed with vallejo smoke, and highlighted with ivory and finally white.
Reds were a base of burnt cadmium red, gore red, and finally a little bloody red highlights.
Metal areas were gunmetal over a black base and washed with watered down black ink. Areas that needed it were re-touched up with gunmetal.
As always comments, critiques, suggestions are always welcome. If you just want to say hello that is fine as well! :w00t:
ok here are my constructive views on unit.
The red is really flat, almost as if its un highlighted.
The black is really missing some subtle area highlights. Doing this subtley and correctly can make it look like its unhighlighted and that natural light is bouncing off the area. Hard to explain so here is a pic, check out the legs.
The gold crozious looks like its been dunked in ink, not really keen on the inky look. I think a few mithril silver highlights would make it pop.
I think the black bases and the black armour don't do you any favours either. But is its a commission job its out of your hands.
overall a tidy looking unit, but i look at them and i think unfinished due to the lack of highlights.
I really have to agree with gareth here, mate.
Overall, they are very definately a decent gaming quality, which is what you were asked for, but the black and reds could really benefit from some highlighting.
The black, especially, looks very odd in some of the photos, because it looks like there is no definition to it. I'm thinking mainly of the legs when I say this. A little 'extreme' highlighting would work wonders to bring it out, even if you just do the top edges of the main sections.
Black base-edging really doesn't help, but I assume this is out of your hands? Try and persuade your client to think about a dark brown, it will really help.
As for the reds, maybe try mixing a bit of bleached bone (or vajello equivilent) into your top highlight, to make it a little more obvious, if you get me? Looking at the reds again, I can see that the highlights are there, especially on the chainswords, but either the photo isn't doing them justice, or they need to be a bit more vibrant.
The chaplain suffers least from the lack of armour highlighting, because he has so much else going on that the black is almost a relief between the areas of detail.
I'm not a huge fan of inking as a technique, but it has worked out nicely on the bone colours, but they are sometimes lost in the sea of black. The chest eagles especially are a bit overpowered.
Maybe painting the straps across the chest a different colour would help this out? Even highlighting the silver up a bit more would probably be enough.
The metallics look good, but the crozius does look a bit soup-y, and could do with a bit more colour definition between the grip and the head, IMO. Add a mithril highlight and bob is your mother's brother.
All in all, they are very solid pieces, definately tabletop, which is what you were asked for, but a tiny bit more work (especially on the black) will make them look very nice indeed :yes:
Very good work for 10 hours though, and a nice bit of pocket money :tongue:
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The black is admittedly mostly flat. I did mix some very dark grey and black together and add spots where the light was reflecting (mostly on the chaplain and on the power fists of the others) It is so subtle that it is almost not there. The client didn't specify high contrast highlighting and was pleased with the overall look so I am not going to complain. I personally don't like high contrast highlighting. I looked at your subtle black shading and I agree that if you are highlighting that is the way to go.Originally Posted by Gareth
As for the reds - they are highlighted. The red x's are more of a blend to the lightest red but on the chainswords it was blended and then a small line of bloody red was put in the edges. I think the extra lighting I have used coupled with the angles of the swords is washing that out.
As for the black bases - I don't like colored bases and since no color was specified I left them black. The rest of the army is on black bases so I guess that is why I didn't color them. I think everyone's philosophy is different on basing but I find that black is neutral and fits better into any scenery. I also think that it grounds the figure in the moment and allows for basing and other things such as the paint job immerse the viewer into the figure. These bases are rather plain but... so I guess it is a personal choice thing. I like the look of a stark black base.
As for the crozius yes the ink in the recesses are standing out vibrant but the lightest gold is washed out in the pictures. Could it use a little silver mixed in the gold - maybe. I might go back and do that before I ship them off.
Thanks for the comments. I wasn't quite expecting the reaction on the black but I can see the reasoning behind it. I personally don't see that it looks unfinished. If compared to straight black primer - I think the difference would be more obvious. Black primer definitely doesn't look finished. I guess I made a decision based on time. I am not a fan of high contrast highlights and to go for a subtle yet good looking blend of highlights on black would have taken more time than I wanted to spend on these guys. Since they are gaming figures I don't think they really suffer for the lack of highlights?!?
Thanks again though!
I hate extreme highlights unless the subject calls for it.
For instance if you had a sister of battle and you wanted her legs to look like they were in shing gloss pvc trousers, then white highlights would create that shiny gloss feel.
if you wanted a matt black, then subtle hghlighting like the stealth works.
Hundreds of different types of blacks with a hundred different ways of painting them. But the above are the main ones. Gloss or Matt, Extreme bright highlight or subtle black.
True enough. Thanks again for your comments. I am going to be doing a Company Rhino in the near future and that will probably have more shading on the black as the surface area is much larger. We shall see. These are definitely gaming pieces so...Originally Posted by Gareth
Originally Posted by Gareth
Yeah I hear you on this. I guess my goal for these guys seeing as they are a commission was to get them as close to accurate portrayal for what they are in the shortest amount of time while still maintinging a clean high quality look. Now this is a huge grey area and I agree that with my own army to play game with I can take all the time in the world and invest into the best look possible - however if you do that with a commission piece it stops being worthwhile to do.
So I took a gamble. I still think they are excellent representations of what they are but I agree they lack in the highlights department... I do believe I am going to go back and add a little silver to the lightest gold for the crozius and armor edging on the chaplain though.
By the way I do really like the color scheme of your tau. It is very soft in tone and easy on the eyes.
Thanks again for your comments and suggestions. I am always open to more! :w00t: