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Okay, so far we have to giant boards that have been covered in sand and then painted white. So now, there is a lot of little ridges and detail. We also have a nice lake in the middle of the second board that has been done up to look like an icy lake. My problem now is that the board still seems to lake detail. I've seen a picture on the GW site that shows little ice-blue patches everywhere but it's too ridiculously small to see.
Does anyone know what step to take next? I'd post pictures but I'm not home yet and basically it's just a bunch of sand painted white anyway (other than the lake).
Well, if it was me i would make a small city by the lake and litter the map in thoees snoey trees they sell at michals ect. Then in the other one i would put a bigger city with smaller blotches of trees.
Yeah, a few groups of pine trees (preferrably covered in snow themselves) would be good. They would help break up the momotony of a flat white playing field whilst giving some cover at the same time. You might also want to add some small tufts of grass breaking through the snow, unless the world/area is so cold that such vegetation cannot live. Another idea would be to cut some crystal shapes out of styrofoam and have them sticking out the of the ground at intervals. These could be painted up so they look a bit like ice crystals rising from the groud.
Other than this, more simple thing like snow drifts (just make a hill and cover it in snow, or have a massive ice hill sticking out of the ground), craters and piles of snow-covered rocks could all help add to the board. Hope this helps mate.
I'd add little puddles of blood and broken bodies to the scene. Smashed tanks and minefields look good too. I like the snowdrift idea too RP.
if you just painted sand, i would add patches of dirt in random places (just painted on) I think that if you add some sort of vegetation or cliff/ridges it would break up monotamy. If youve got cash, i would suggest that you buy some warhammer skeleton sprues and splice them with other bits like imperial guard, or space marines then add them on movable bases, or broken down Tank or something, to make it look like there was a battle long ago, but still being preserved by the frozen weather. Its really eerie, especially when you litter more of your enemies dead on the board.
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Ok my views on the subject.
Using a sand covered board painted white works good enough, but have you considered something smoother?
I have little experience with modeling snow, but I could imagine that using a thin layer of plaster over the board or at leas t in some large patches would make it look more realistic.
As for the scenery I would say that you should never go for prefabricated terrain into the board, by this I mean don't mold terrain into the board.
You'll thank me later when you get tired of the same mountain and the same lake are at the same place everytime you play.
Modular terrain might work but it doesn't always look too good.
Just make the stuff you feel like, what you like the best.
For my sake that is having some swamp ridden terrain with a few patches of trees here and there.
For you idea of an iceworld, I would go for some of the GW ideas, not their scenery pieces unless you want to.
Because you must admit, GW has some nice ideas for terrain and scenery.
Try thinking about having some ruined buildings covered in "snow", build you own custom buildings/bunkers or some other prefabricated stuff and simple work on them with applying white plaster or similar substance.
Also I would advice you to try going for something simple as a snow drift, you'll be amazed at the natural effect it creates on the board.
Make some small patches of trees, anyone will do, place them on some appropriate piece of terrain and just use some gloves and apply a gentle layer of plaster on the trees.
I know my ideas are very general but maybe they'll wokr for you.
Thanks for the ideas guys.
I will post some pics once my bro gets back with his camera. The board is pretty sweet to play on I just can't seem to get the bunkers to look real enough yet.
Also, molding pre-made terrain into the board is a bad idea, we knew we would get sick of that so everything is modular (except the lake)
You could have a beasty frozen in the ice. Go to a toy shop or a museum gift shop and get a prehistoric creature, preferably a mamoth. You could also use an alien if you want. Paint it and glue it to a base. Make sure the base it's standing on is painted white. Now make a mould in a big chunk of frozen ice shape. Tin foil could work or simply plaster. Fill the mould with PVA or water effects. Water effects may be expensive so transparent PVA is best.
Now cover the floor with old newspaper as this will probably be messy. The mould is best supported in a bucket now the mould is full put the prehistoric critter into the PVA in the mould. Do this slowly and carefully to avoid spillage and air bubbles. Allow this all to dry. Remove it from the mould carefully. You may find the PVA has shrunk, who cares. As long as it covers your critter it is fine. You can lightly drybrush the edges to make it look cold and to help obscure the critter if it is too easily seen.
I just love that frozen beast idea, I've thought about it hundreds of times but never really got up to it.
The issues that I have bumped into are the following:
PVA might be the most perfect material to use, it's cheap, it easily pours to fill the mold and it creates a semi transparent finish that looks a lot like ice.
Then again, when pouring too much of the stuff the center never really seems to settle. In a worst case the glue will harden on the surface and the core will still be fluid, it's just like pouringa big block of concrete, it will (if ever) settle vvvveeeeeeerrrrryyyyyy slowly. Concrete could take weeks or months. In the case of Hoover Dam the concrete would require 230 years if poured in one go. Same thing might happen to the PVA. PVA effectively reacts to the air and starts a vulcanisation process, but since the entire mould can get air all around it the surface will settle and the core can take ages to get hard.
As for watereffects.
I had some quite good results with artificial water from Woodland Scenics, only problem was the price. I payed like 20Â£ for a 0.5 liter bottle.
If you're doing smaller pieces like a little pond here and there this might be a good way to go, but when doing larger pieces with more volume it is an absolute no-go. Same problem with the center setteling. A standard 0.5 inch layer of this stuff will take 24 hours to cure...at least the surface, add another 24 and it should be solid.
The more you pour the longer this stuff takes to settle, pour enough of it and I'm pretty sure it will never completely settle.
But both of these means should be working, just pour you prefered substance in a laminated way and it should work great.
Just make sure that nothing gets stuck in the uncured, soft, sticky suface before you pour the next layer.