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Hi all! Having recently 'finished' my Tau army, I plan to move on! To Death Guard! But as it would happen, I didn't like the DG Models, but I loved the unit choices and such *cough*Defiler*cough* so I have decided to do a Pre-Heresy Army...using the CSM Codex!
Shocking I know, but I choose the CSM codex because of the flexibility found all round, and because of Defilers, I love them so...Soon I may be forces to visit the Defiler Lovers Anonymus group…sad I know.
But anyways, armed with the fact that this represented a great Modeling/Conversion opportunity, I decided to keep going no matter what anyone says.
And so I started planning out the most basic unit, the Death Guards.
I had a few SM bitz already from past projects so I started fiddling with them, and I ended up with the fact that I couldn’t use straight SM parts, there needed to be more variety. I also needed more parts for the older versions of Power Armor, this led me to buy some Chaos Marines. So far, I believe I can save most of the parts, the horned heads are so far a loss, as I haven’t yet come up with a decent way to convert them to be horn-less.
Then I was reminded about the Black Templar Upgrade Sprues, I fell instantly in love with them and bought a box, I’m able to save about 80% of the bitz for sure, other could see some use with heavy converting, and the mass amount of CC weapons makes me want to cry its so awesome, as I’m giving, every, single, Death Guard, a, CC weapon! I was also ecstatic about the Plasma guns and Melta guns, essential for any Death Guard warrior!
Here are some quick mock ups I tried, some of the parts still haven’t been de-chaosed or de-Black Templared, but it gives a good idea of what I’m aiming for.
Mock Ups: Troops
What do you guys think so far?
I like the idea - saying your army is pre-heresy obviously rules out the use of any type of daemon, but an army made from the CSM list could definately work. I am interested in how you are going to explain the use of a defiler in fluff terms - any ideas about that yet?
The model test runs you have show promise. I have done something very similar for my marines and have mixed parts from numerous different sprues, including the ones you have used, but also a few more:
- Space wolves accessory sprue - Click
- Command squad sprue - Click
- Assault marine upgrade sprue - Click
- Marine vehicle accessory sprue - Click
- Chaos Vehicle accessory sprue - Click
- Chaos Warrior Sprue - Click
- Numerous interesting CC weapons from WHFB and Morheim.
I try to give each model something a little different from the norm (different cc wep other than a chainsword, different helmet from the chaos warriors etc). It looks really good and will give your army a unique feel. If you like robes (like the stuff from the Black Templar sprue) then you might want to wait for the new Dark Angels upgrade sprues coming out next spring - they will have loads of tabbards robes and capes.
You might also want to look at some of the existing Dark angels models, as they have heavy robes (as does cypher) and look like they would suit your purpose very well.
Good luck with the army mate, and keep us posted - would like to see how it turns out.
I honestly don't know how I'm going to explain the Defiler, but what I do know is that I'll enjoy watching/reading all teh super fluff purists raging at me!
As to how I'm going to De-chaos the Defiler, I won't be able to know that till I get a chance to have the parts in my hands and under the knife. I do know it will be the center piecefor my army, so I'll be taking my time with it, might get the Defler after my next paycheck...we'll have to see, I know I do plan on keeping the foot spikes and such, as I want it to keep that feeling it has for being a pure killing machine, but I will try to give it a relatively 'clean-cut' look, maybe even combining the Defielr with a Dreadnought body, mount the Reaper AC and Havoc Launcher where the Dread's arms go, then somehow mount the Battle Cannon in the leg housing...what do ya think?
Some of those Sprues I'll look into more, but right now, I've got plenty of parts to work off of, plus I could be getting some more in trades, so for now I'm not worried about buying specifric sprues.
I'll definetly keep this thread updated! Thanks for the support!
Actually, I don't plan on using the Battle Cannon much. I'm such a radical eh?
i plan on using it more as a shock assault unit, using the army's only Reaper Autocannon to full effect!
But I'm aiming for a more Human Look, I was thinking of using the Dreadnought Body in place of the Defiler's 'Torso' as I don't know how hard it may be to De-Chaos it, but again, I won't know till I get there.
That would be quite lekker ( Good)
However i agree that it would be hard to invision without the actaul parts in your hands,
it would be good to get some more experianced opinions on this though as im just going
off my head.
So will you be adding a head to it? Maybe you could go the route that the White Dwarf's
Iron Warrior player did a while ago, putting the defiler head in the chest with wires and such.
(Dont know the number of the magazine)
Perhaps a captain atop it if you go this route! A champion in orange army leading it on!