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Okay, I'm a little stumped with my GR horses. Any help is appreciated.
For the saddle I was going for more of a cloth than a leather saddle. First, I didn't want more browns for the saddle when the horses were already in browns. I needed contrast. Second, it's easy to imagine WEs not using saddles and just having cloths, like the ones that actually go underneath saddles.
The problem is that the cloth looks so flat and dull. I tried sketching out some designs but nothing looks good. Any ideas?
The lighting is too intense on this. It's really not that shiny. So do any of you paint in the eyes on horses? I usually ignore eyes but these are more paintable and more visible.
And what about hooves? I was thinking a desert yellow gone over with a brown ink and then glossed?
And I may add blazes to some of the horses.
So anyhow, I've never done horses before. These are okay, but not great. I'm looking for any way to spruce up their appearance and all advice is welcome.
I was thinking about the hooves and eyes.. on the pictures I like how the hooves look but maybe they just look all black and flat in real life. I would just highlight them with dark gray.
Horse eyes is black aren't they? Maybe just paint a little shine effect in them. A white dot or something.
First off - I think the horse looks good. Very clean and the colors blend well.
How much of the saddle is visible when the rider is on it? I would only worry about the visible saddle/cloth. Maybe some kind of leaf/nature pattern would be appropriate. As for colors not really sure. maybe a fall forest color such as golden yellow/brown, maybe even a softe redish brown. Look to the colors of the forest for inspiration.
For the hooves I am not sure I would recommend starting with a yellow base unless you want lighter hooves. I would probably start with an dark ochre brown (or dark brown) and lighten it at the tips maybe by mixing in some bone...
You might even want to go a tad lighter with the rope as well for a more dramatic effect.
Hope this provides a little help.
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OK spending a lot of time mucking out at the moment so can probably help here:
1. Good work, better than most table top horses I see
rest of points are therefore suggestions rather than criticisms
2. the colour of a horse changes with seasons but also on his body, classically bay horses (brown bodies and dark brown or black mains and tails) are darker on the kneck, legs and underbody), Chestnut horses (about snakebite leather colour) are typically darker on the underbody, you seem to be sticking with brown but I would throw in some greys (white) horses, then I would look up dunn, chestnut, skewbald, piebald, bay, grey etc and see how there is various different colours in the same breeds
3. Look at dappling, particularly on the hind quaters and shoulders, this can easily be done with very watered paint
4. Consider the markings shown on some of the glade riders in the GW stuff, swirls etc painted on to the horse
5. Saddles- classically thouroughreds, Arabs and similar breeds are "clipped" in the winter, there are varrious styles of clipping but the GW Saddle does look very like one of these, look it up, you will see effectively the hair is left long on the back where the saddle is, this is the winter coat and generally darker than the rest of the hair, although often the legs are also left unclipped, they are called "lines" if you want to do a search
6. Saddles if painted would probably be saddle blankets rather than preoper saddles, there is clearly litte or no rigidty or shape to them, that is where I would go, look to paint them like blankets, or better yet leaves with veins, although they probably would not show with a rider on it
7. hooves on all horses tend to be black or very very dark brown with the tips trurning white, commonly horses have white socks on none, one, two, three or four hooves which would fie you variety, also it is not uncommon to paint hooves with various substances to protect them. Somehow I doubt Eldar horses are shod
Last edited by Cheredanine; November 22nd, 2006 at 17:21.
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Wow, thanks for taking time to write all that out.
I googled horse eyes and got plenty of images convincing me not to worry about the eyes.
Yes, they should be saddle cloths and not saddles, but I went to crazy with the bonewhite and didn't blend well.
I think I should starting painting the riders and see how they add to the model.
And thanks, Chere, for the detailed advice.
I read an earlier version of this guy's article.
The Glade Riders are nearly done. I've got the command group left, but these five can see the table finally.
Some things I'm happy about, and others I'm not. The capes turned out well, but the hair was a botch. And as ridiculous as this sounds, I really don't like doing weapons.
I ordered the bases already painted from MAS, and they're gorgeous. I'm going to get 8 more for my Wild Riders unit.
I'm not sure about the green dressing on the horses, but I didn't want leather against their brown coats. I guess I can say it's a camouflage.
I wish I had better lighting since a lot of the highlights don't show up well. If you look closely, though, you can see some of the Elmer's glue still drying around the hooves.
So what suggestions do you have to make them better? Like I said, a lot of things really bugged me with these, so I'm open to any and all tips and ideas. By the way, thanks for all the earlier tips--lots of good painters out there on LO!
Nice treehuggers! I like a lot! I think that the sadles are nice, could be better though but I'm not sure on how you could do them other than like that. They work well now so there's no real reason to change them.
As for improving them, maybe more highlights on the horses?
love the bases, david VC04 they are totally fitting of a WoodElf army. I like your blending too, very smooth transitions....i do think that your horses are too one colored. When i painted my glade rider horses, i used contrasting colors for the mane and tail, compared to the body. For the reddish brown i used a blackish color, and it added some contrast. I still like them alot though, escpecially the bases, good work!
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Yeah, I agree about the horses. I need a different scheme for the wild riders--it was my first time to do a horse, well, a non-skeletal one.
I love the colours they are very rich!
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