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For my GCSE Design & Technology project I want to make a full-scale painting desk, and was wondering it it would be worthwhile and if any of you could give me any tips.
I don't have any drawings uploaded yet, so I will try and describe it.
Imagine a heavy-wooden computer desk, 4' by 2' in size.
There is a 2' gap in the middle where you sit, and a cupboard either side (1' wide each). These open up away from the user, and plastic draws slide out and clip into place, holding paints, brushes, tools and suchlike.
The tabletop is made from thick glass. This glass is removable; it slots into squard bracket shaped pieces on the sides and back (eg [---------]), and it is stopped sliding off forwards by wooden stops, that come out 1' from each side (eg [===--------===]).
There is a higher level like some computer desks have (for storing pens, paper etc). This will have a rack for placing unfininshed models to keep them out of the way.
I might also incorporate paintbrush, water-beakers and paint holders in somewhere, probably the edge opposite the user.
So, do you think this would be useful? It has storage and a very easy-to-clean surface. It has ample space for painting. It is also possible to view the model from underneath, or shine a light up from underneath to show any areas one has missed.
Can you also answer a couple of questions (make em up yourself if you want), ie "how much would you pay for it?"?
What type of wood for a start?
And what materials are used etc, also what would the plastic look like when compared to the wood :wacko:
You need to think about lighting. When painting something lighting is always of extreme importance. Where the light would go is important and having it ajustable. Also make sure it has a lampshade so that the light will not directly go in the eyes but will shine on the model. Convience, having everything suit us is the order of the day when it comes to hobbies and comsumer items.
People are messy, make sure that there is space for people to make a mess. Large amounts of extra storage would be good. I have two drawers in my painting desk and I keep my paints in the left on and my inks in the right one.
i'm currently using a glass computer table as my painting station (and also my computer table. go figure)
A couple of notes about what i've learned.
I LOVE PAINTING ON A GLASS TABLE. it's a brease to clean, it never gets damaged, and cutting pads (big ones from michaels) don't move ever once they are on them.
The second level, smaller and to the back, is nice on my table. it's about 10" higher then the main table, and it's 1/2 the width so it's out of the way
Things i need:
MORE STORAGE! Really, as much storage as possible. And don't make the storage specific, because if you make a place for each type of object, said object will never fit quite right. Reconfigurable drawers, deeper then you'd expect would be good.
I'm picturing something like twin tackle boxes popping out away from the painter, is that what your plan is?
Height ajustability would be a definate plus. I got my father in law to build me a workbench for the basement (where i make all terrain / woodwork / solder). He measured my height, figured out the right level for most work (standing up, and with a bar stool) and it works great. I wish my desk had that kind of adjustability.
For lighting and general electrical, a power strip of at least 6 outlets is going to be essential. I like having a few lights on hand (old school ones with the adjustable arms) as well as a dremel and a vacuum at the very least.
Oh one more thing. Don't assume where you would want something like water beakers is where everyone would. Specifically, think left handed users vs right handed users.
there ya have it...
My teacher said making a glass desk is going to be a hard project, let alone with all these extras! I'll plan it and try and fit as much in as possible though. Annoying thing is most people are doing small, simple coffee tables, as they always get high marks. But I don't want to be boring!
The layer like king said is what I'll be going for. Is yours glass, and do you think you need it glass?
I'm still trying to work out how I do the lighting. I will definitely make the light on one of those bend stands so it can be adjusted, but I'm not sure where to place it.
My thoughts so far are having 6-12" of wood either side of the glass (making the glass itself smaller). These are the slots the glass fits in to, but they would also have storage beakers or whatever in them, for brushes, sprays etc. I could also fit in a light there, maybe one on either side? I'd also have this along the back, under the second level.
I was also thinking of having a mirror along the back, about 5" or so up from the first level, going towards the second level. Thoughts?
To make adjustable height I fear is going to be very hard. And advice on how to do it, as because it's a whole desk I think it'll be quite hard.
So what do you all think of this (very abitious) project so far? How much would you be willing to pay? And would you even consider buying one?
The outlets somewhere is defenantely a must, for lights/radio/whatever. Honostly i dont think glass would be too good. It Always has the possibility of breaking and any scrathces on it are way more noticable than on other surfaces. And the light that would be coming up from the bottom would be obscured by the base. If you wanted to look under the model it would be a hassal to crawl under your desk to look up...just pick it up. Not too mention that light would be shining in the painters eyes. I would go for a wood top. That also makes it easier on yourself during the building process...glass is a pain to cut right.
I would suggest making circular indents about 1' of where the painter would be painting and make two of them about 1.5' apart. The holes would be the standard dixie cup size. This would allow painters to place their water cups according to their right/left handedness (is that even a word? LoL) The other hole could be used to place a cup to place paint brushes/pencils/hobby /knives.
Over all i think you have an excellent project going and i know how you feel when the rest of your class mates are doing boring crap with little effort while you go all out and blow them outta the water:shifty: ...it fells good...go for it man!!!
Last edited by Evil Moon; December 16th, 2006 at 15:49.
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in answer to your question, yes the mini shelf is glass, and no it's really not required to be.
I think for simplicity sake, forget the slot for the glass. If you want glass, build a wood table frame (without a top) and then put something like a 1x1 on all 4 sides of th top framing and put a piece of glass in the resulting hole.
Keeping things simple will likely make your life a lot easier.
Well ask yourself 'do i need a dedicated painting desk?' Most people probably don't have one and the desk they use (which may be covered in painting stuff all year round) isn't designed for the subject. I for one do not think you need a specialised desk and should consider a harder item to construct for your school task. BUT, if you have your heart set on it, this is what I would consider in designing my painting desk:
1. Have you seen those 'roller' or clerks desks where you can roll a shutter down on it, like a bread keeper? Well I would incorporate that so you can secure your desk without having to pack up - thus keeping your stuff safe.
2. On and around the desk I would have shelves for water cups, tools, brushes. If you can have a glass panel, incorporate it.
3. Lighting - I would make room for a lamp and if I could install additional lights in the desk, I would. I would also build one that can shine up through the glass pane if you were ever planning on doing any tracing.
4. Draws and storage - smaller and more numerous draws are the go here. Have a draw for your paints, another for bits, another for partially completed jobs, etc. These draws should be on both sides of the sitting area.
5. A 'cradle' in the desk for your pallate, depending on what you use to mix your paints on.
That's my bit - hope it helps.
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I remember when I studied graphic design and the most important thing is to show your work. You need to show that you have done loads of research. this means endless pictures of tales etc from all possible sources.
You also need to show development. Show how you have progressed from one design top the next. This shows a thought process which will impress examiners when they start dishing out your marks. The end result needs to be a creation based on your research and then your development. They will see a thought process and give you good marks for having a brain.
It need not be a masterpiece. If you create something that is based on nothing you will get poor marks. It won't matter if it is god-like in it's design, no research and no development means it is no good, for all they know you may of stolen the idea from somewhere, you need to show it is your idea built upon what you have done. All your marks are in research and especially development.