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Ok so ive designed a tyranid monstrosity using the '04 Chapter Approved, and now im trying to think of ways to model the creature.
Here are the stats to give you a rough idea of the creature.
Save 4+ (but warp field makes it 2+/6+)
Holds 10 wounds worth of 'nids.
I dont have a lot of tyranid spare parts to play around with, so a lot of it will have to be made from scratch.
Any ideas on what it should look like, how to make it, or some useful materials?
EDIT: Im thinking that it should be something fat (seeing as it carries other nids), so i was thinking of basing the shape around something similar to a toilet paper roll sitting vertically on top (or leaning forward) of a cricket ball with legs (obviously not going to use these 2 things for the model itself, im just giving an idea on general shape).
Last edited by joebloggs1987; January 1st, 2007 at 07:52.
Chaos - 11W 0L 0D
Orks - 8W 0L 0D
Tyranids - 8W 0L 0D
I have been giving this alot of thought myself lately as i am think of designing a giant Tyranid myself. You could have a look at the thread I started on the subject. http://22.214.171.124/~librariu/foru...ad.php?t=84438
Basically you want something which is roughly Hive tyrant or maybe Carnifex sized with the addition of an area in it's body for holding other Tyranids. I think that the idea for making it fat isn't going to be easy. This is because it is also winged and has a high initiative and weapon skill. Something which is quick and agile in combat and can also fly won't look quick and agile and able to fly if it is a wideboy.
I suggest as an alternative to fat you have an area which other Tyranids cling on to as it flies along. You could have a long and powerful rigid looking tail. On the bottom of this tail you could have hooks to show that the Tyranids cling to these hooks as it flies. If the tail is stretching out behind it the impression will be that it provides balance while tha creature is in flight. This will be good as it will look more realistic.
You could also incorporate the lashwhips into this by having them dangle out the bottom. Make them look like tentacle hooks which it uses to grab prey, basically a modified version of it's carrying hooks. I would place the scything talons in a preying mantis position. I suggest you look up images of the preying mantis on the net. Infact to get inspiration for your idea I suggest loads of Google image searches. Bug, insect, spider, winged alien, scorpion are a few you could try.
For actual materials I suggest toilet roll. Get some toilet roll and mix it with water and add some PVA. Then take chunks of the toilet roll and squeeze it into the rough shapes of the parts you want. You can then model green stuff over this. It takes some time a week maybe to dry but it will save you loads of money. Also you can make loads of different parts to experiment with because it is so cheap.
Feeder tendrils are a good way to do the head. It may not have feeder tendrils but they are easy to do. Just roll out little bits of green stuff. Making teeth is really hard. If you don't have many spare Tyranid parts you will have to make alot of this model from scratch.
To get some experience working with green stuff experiment with putty. Any cheap putty will do. Practice sculpting it and so on. When you get an idea of what you are doing you can move on to making the model. Beware that putty often has oils which will ruin a paint job if they get on you model at any time so it is best to wash your tools well before going near the green stuff.
Hope this helps get you started.
I'd go with the paper toilet roll. Here's my mental image:
A Russian transport plane, Aliens dropship or one of the shuttles from Starship Troopers. The head is small and high up, possibly vestigial. The ribcage is enormous and takes up most of the body. At the front of the ribcage is a nasty-looking orifice door, perhaps with ramp (tongue?). That's where the troops disembark. Legs are small and designed to hold weight. Wings are colossal and insectoid rather than like a dragon or bat. The tail may have fins to help guide it, like a fighter plane. Just a few thoughts.
The whole thing would be a lot like a transport helicopter, except biological and repulsive and with wings instead of rotors. If in doubt, have a look at the novel West of Eden by Harry Harrison. At the back it has pictures of bioengineered creatures. Suitably yuck.
Yes its a moth. Why have I posted a pic of a moth? Let me explain.
The wingspan is huge, bigger than the body. This is something you can incorperate in order to make the 'fat' nid your talking about look like it actually does have the ability to fly.
Its limbs. 6 of them, just like a nid. Make these into scything talons and... you get the idea!
The body. Two parts. The front part houses all the parts. (Head, body, legs.) The rear doesnt actually look like part of the moth. Perhaps in nid terms this could be the troop carrying sack or something similar?
Dunno if thats of any use to you at all, but when i read what youd put a moth just sprung instantly to mind!
Heres what im thinking....
- A body like the red terror or ravener but with a warrior-style head.
- A tail like the red terror or ravener, but rather than have it "walking" on its tail, it will have a pair of hive tyrant style legs. The tail will have to be big enough to hold weight (in game), because this will be used as the transport for the genestealers. They hitch a ride by jumping on the creatures tail or back.
- A pair of the large scything talons.
- Either a set of large dragon-style wings, or else 2 pairs of smaller dragonfly-style wings that encorporate the 2 wings on one side into the same limb.
- Get some old sprues and melt the plastic and stretch it and curve it to represent lash whips. I dont like the idea of the hook on the end of the GW lash whips, personally i would rather ones that instead of just lashing the enemy, they actually grab them (or their arms). Im thinking of around 6 whips on the model, 4 on the front of it and one each side under the arm of the scything talons (obviously counting them as just 1 set of lash whips though, therefor the one biomorph, as the limit is 2).
And thats basically it.
And to keep it going with the tyranid theme, you'll notice that it still only has 6 limbs. The wings, the legs, and the scything talons. The lash whips wouldnt really count as limbs as such, because they will only be small. More like a minor growth from the body than a limb (similar way to flesh hooks i guess).
The reason im thinking that the transport should be external rather than internal is that i cant see how a huge pregnant bug can have WS5 I5, the same as the hive tyrant, raveners, etc.... yet warriors are only WS4 I4, and carnifex's are WS3 I1.
What do you think?
Any tips on how i should go about it?
I own 3 warriors, is it worth scrapping them to make these monstrosities?
Last edited by joebloggs1987; January 4th, 2007 at 23:58.
Chaos - 11W 0L 0D
Orks - 8W 0L 0D
Tyranids - 8W 0L 0D
I think you are off to a good start. I don't think you are supposed to be putting out the charictaristics of the Hive tyrant, Carnifex and so on, it's against the rules. If this thing is mean't to transport it will need to be fairly big. Hive tyrant sized won't be big enough.
Also the rules for designing monstrous and gargantuan creaturesa are mean't to provide rules for new creatures not variations on current ones. I think you may need to make it larger than it is. If you want a possible alternative to melting sprues and gassing yourself use the barbed strangler and venom cannon ammo feeds. These make fairly decent tentacles.
I've seen hunched fex models with moth wings and they do achieve the fat ball with wide wings ...althought the rending talons and the like weren't incorperated..I think that's a good idea......Maybe a Warrior with wide wings and some extended carapace modeled to make it larger/wider