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So yeah, I'm trying to get my hands on one of those old-fashioned, antique, circa 1987 Rogue Trader Dreadnoughts. For those that don't remember them (I don't, I was only born in '84! By the time I got into 40K these were long gone, but GW was still supplying a lot of RT models) here's a pic:
As you can see these things are terrifying. Not because they strike fear into the hearts of their enemies, but because they just make my stomach feel queasy. You know, that sort of embarassed feeling that we sometimes get when we see someone make an idiot of themselves. You know, like when you're watching an old TV show or movies from the early 90s that features some really crappy child actor, and their acting is just so atrocious that it makes your stomach feel funny because for some reason you feel the pain that kid is going to go through when he grows up and watches his over-board acting...
Anyway like I said, I'm trying to get my hands on one. I'd like to do some minor conversions on it and field it as my Dreadnought. The only problem is.. well, I don't really need to explain. The model is horrible and I don't even know if I would be able to do anything with it... but here's a short list of what I'm thinking of doing:
- Chop those ugly feet off and replace them with Chaos Dreadnought feet.
- Add shin guards -- I have a couple of bits that I think would do very nicely
- Somehow add an upper-torso shaped bit to the front, somewhat similar to the Chaos Dreadnought, but obviously different. I was thinking of incorporating the front half torso of a CSM, with a cut-down helmet or bare head stuck in for the face; cut down so that the neck rim of the torso would cover most of the head's chin and mouth, similar to the SM Venerable Dread
- Somehow "beef up" the model in general, to give it a bulkier look. I was thinking of somehow using a combination of GS and plasticard or similar for this. Perhaps squaring off the shoulders, similar to modern Dreadnoughts, to give it a more impressive girth.
- Replacing one or both arms; the power fist arm I don't mind, but I really don't like the look of the "Las Cannon". Frankly it's ugly. I'd like to arm mine with twin-linked Lascannons or Autocannons. I could simply buy the Lascannon arm of the modern Dreads but I think it might look way out of place. But we'll see.
- A very liberal sprinkling of spikes, skulls, chains and whatnot.
- Overall, what I want to do is make it look like the "missing link" between the RT-era Dreads and modern Dreads, with the obvious tinge of Chaos.
That's all I have for now. The reason I made this thread is twofold; first, any suggestions? Second, anyone have experience converting one of these? The best part (IMO) is that with it being metal, if I really screw up I can simply strip it and start over.
Wish me luck. This will basically be my first attempt to convert something at any appreciable level, besides adding GS fur/chainmail. Ooo, chainmail!
Last edited by Misanthrope; January 5th, 2007 at 09:44.
Takka n' Wakka's Dakka Attacka! 33W / 6L / 1D
Misanthrope mate, where do you live? I have atleast 2 of these (Chuck, freddy and Eddie) in my attic still in bits
Everything you have been told is a lie!
I also have one and a half of the Chaos ones.
You can have my half (the bitz are the torso and I think an arm) if you like.
Cervantes: In order to attain the impossible, one must attempt the absurd.
I had the same thoughts as I had an old Chaos Dread from back in the day and wanted to 'update' it. Here are some pictures of the conversion. I am not satisfied with it and will probably redo it at some stage, but it was a good exercise...
Basically the height wasn't too much of an issue, but the overall bulk and width was, so much of the work was fattening it out. I think the work still required are bulking out the legs by adding armoured panels. Also I am not happy about the leg-hip interface. Really I think the whole think needs to have a dip in the paint stripper bath...
Comparison with FW dread
Last edited by northwave; January 5th, 2007 at 11:22. Reason: Added Comparison Image
Holy crap! That's almost exactly how I envisioned mine. Except mine would be red. Heh!
Anyway I don't see nothin' wrong with it, except maybe the fact that it's purple.
And I live in Canada... if either of you would like to work out some sort of transaction for your bits I'd love it... as long as it doesn't cost too much, as I'm on a budget (thats kinda the reason I'm looking for 20-year-old models).
Oh man I really, really love that Dread man... please, tell me how you did it! What parts did you use (besides the obvious FW autocannons and DCCW), how did you assemble it, did you use lots of GS, etc etc.. I must know! Must duplicate!
Seriously, that model's great. The only thing I don't like about it is the bulbous groin area... it kinda makes it look like an ant's abdomen. Especially with that stinger-looking protrustion at the back..
Thanks a bunches!
Takka n' Wakka's Dakka Attacka! 33W / 6L / 1D
Thanks for the comments :blush:
I used the mid section and a pair of feet from the latest GW metal dreads and as you know the autocannon and chain fist from the FW kits.
In addition to this there are some chaos vehicle sprue spiky bits on the top of the shoulders, a skull embossed in the right shoulder. There are various otyher bits like a FW weapon targeter and chaos vehicle sprue icons involved too. I used some of the GW 'barbed wire' for some of the cabling (didn't have any guitar wire at this point) too.
Construction was basically to take apart the old dread. The new kid section was added in between the two halves of the old minature. This really dictates how you proceed as it sets the right width requirememts for the arms. I left the sarcophagus sides on the body. I then used some small coins (1p pieces but I think cents would work okay too) to bulk out the arms from the body to get the right kind of width. The legs were attached to the pelvis via some plastruct I-beam and some pieces of round plastruct.
There is various GS work then to fill in and bulk out the shoulders and pelvis. I agree the pelvis bit is a bit rubbish. It didn't look good on the original model either IMHO. Maybe teh solution is to use a more recent pair of legs!
Last edited by northwave; January 6th, 2007 at 11:20. Reason: typo
Northwave, your coverted dreadnought looks much much better than the standard Chaos Dreadnought.
Well done. Inspiring to us all.
LO RulesOriginally Posted by AnonymousOriginally Posted by Cyric
=P i like those drednoughts =P would make me army look hershy =P