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Hey guys, I'm working on getting better at painting..
I seem to be having trouble with getting an even coat of Scab Red on a black base coat. Over large surfaces it tends to get streaky, and you can see the texture of the paint when it dries, you can like, see the brush strokes in the paint. I read somthing about adding soap and watering paint down among other things. What exactly does the soap do and what kind would you use? I'm basically looking for general tips on getting the paint to come out smooth and even. Any help would be great.
The problem you have is common to translucent paints- mostly the reds and yellows. The easiest answer is 'don't paint red or yellow over black'. The only way to avoid streakyness is to use thin paints (I thin with inks rather than water wherever possible) and apply several coats. A white undercoat gives much better and truer colour (if you want a darker red then add a hint or black, brown or dark blue to the base coat rahter than use a black undercoat). If a black undercoat is unavoidable for some reason then you'll be looking at many thin coats to get a good even cover. You'll probably need 1 or 2 extra coats even over white but many more over black. Some people use a layer of another colour first- brown or white usually but often this is just another layer that gets streaky.
The idea of adding a bit of soap or washing up liquid is that it breaks the surface tension of the ink or the wash and allows it to flow more naturally. This won't help a lot if the big problem is streaking but it will give a better result once you're adding many layers.
What is it you are painting? Lots of people here would have painted a similar army or figure type and might be able to give specific examples.
Hope this helps.
No more NG spearmen, thanks! Now I need some pump-wagons!
Um, I want to paint eldar jetbikes.
I was thinking of painting them with a black undercoat and then having a red flame design going up from the front of the bike. I've just been practicing painting flame patterns on an undercoated piece of resin, and the red comes out odd, you can see ridges where the brush strokes go down the surface. It just looks sort of lumpy. The coverage is not really an issue, I can do multiple coats, it's just that the coats have an odd texture. Maybe I just need to rethink the color scheme before I try it on the bikes. I just kind of like a darker look to the eldar color scheme instead of the white base coats I see most of the time.
I paint scrab red onto chaos black all the time. Usually i do two layers of scab red and then a highlight of red gore, red gore/blood red mix, blood red. Always thin your paints. Paint from a palette rather then directly from the pot.
I thin my paints either with acrylic thinner or water. Acrylic thinner keeps the integrity of the paint when you want something really thin (think highlights). For main coats i usually just use water.
I guess I'm just not thinning the paint down enough then, thanks
What about that soap thing though? What exactly is that for?
It's for removing the tension in your paints.
Basically, if your paint is pooling in the recesses of the model your paint has too much tension. A little soap will remove the tension. I've heard of meany different types of soap being used, the kind that I use are dish washing soap.
Ok, cool. Thanks for the tips guys
As already mentioned black is a hard color to cover with some paints. For reds I highly recommend putting down a mid tone brown first. As already stated thin your paints and that is the #1 way to avoid streaks and grain. When the paint is too thick you will just push it around on the model with the brush and leave the brush strokes - but if it is thin you will get a more even coverage.
Personally I don't put soap into my mix - but rather than thinning with just water I use a mix of 40% water, 40%Future Floor Wax (helps cut the surface tension and adds a bit of protection to the paint, and 20% Liquitex Extender (extends the drying time of the paint so you can work with it a bit longer). I don't really recommend mixing ink into your paints unless you have an ink around the same shade of paint you are after. Though there isn't anything wrong with it - you will end up with less control over the overall shade with the ink. Really depends - honestly I am on the fence on that.
Show us some examples of your work and maybe we can give you more specific and helpful advice. Is there a reason you are priming black? Maybe you could meet the paint half way and prime white and then wash the figure with watered down black ink. That way you still get a darker base but not so dark as to make it hard to paint red on.
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