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So I'm working on my 'crons, and I have a few "display crystals" built into the bases here and there. I'm trying to paint them to look like a shiny red. I've seen green ones done in the codex. They recommend a black undercoat, drybrush with Dark Angels Green, then a finish with a lighter version (snot, or maybe scorpion) along the edges.
So I start with black, do red gore, then edged with Blood Red. Looks terrible. Like a chunk of wood or rock. I'm clearly doing something wrong. Grr... any suggestions?
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I would suggest just the opposite. Undercoat black, Blood red, then scab red in the middle of the crystal.
Hope this helped!
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i did some work on a daemon prince for a friend of mine that required a similar touch
i found that usinga vermin brown basecoat (after black) then blending it with red gore (blend, not layer) and this itself then blended to blood red with the very edges of the crystals/weapon done in firey orange works great
My fav is to hard line the highlight of blood red or red gore along the very edges of the black crystal then layer on watered down red ink all over.
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Will post pics later, but this is NOT going well.
Ok, I started by using the green crystal in the codex as an example. They started with black, then drybrushed dark angels green (I think), maybe some snot green edge highlight. I wanted a "red" version, so I started with black undercoat (over a clearcoat primer on gray plastic), and highlighted with scab red, then tried an extreme-edge highlight with blood red. Looked terrible. The highlight did NOT stand out at all, and the "crystal" looked a lot like the rocks on the base, which were undercoated with dark flesh.
So after reading the advice here (much thanks to all, despite my results), I tried a different tack: painted the whole thing blood red, painted the "center" parts black, leaving the red highlights, then painted the very edges blazing orange. Now it looks like a piece of lava, not the glowing red crystal I'm looking for. HELP!
pk Canew mate, to start from scratch, the trick with the crystal is not to paint it look red but to give the impresion of a red crystal. I would get tempted to blend, but you can do it well with drybrushing.
1. Base coast black
2. Drybrush though red, best to do progressively lighter/brighter reds ending in scarlet (blood red) - you are only trying to get the edges and less of them with each colour)
3. drybrush orange - very gently only the lower edges of the crystal and around the bottom, possibly repeat with yellow getting even less on and at the very limit of the bottom of the crystal
4. wash with a thin red ink (at least dilutes 1 part ink to 3 parts water, concentrate on the edgles of the crystal, leave the middle of the faces alone, dont put too much on, use repaeated coats [b]wait until the last coat is dry before applying the next one[/b, bring the highlights back towards red.
5. figure out hwere pights woudl specificaly reflect off the surface, generally near the top corners, particularly on curved surfaces if you have any, and paint a single white spot (small) on it, try and keep it round or an oval eliongated vertically, but small. if you realy want to get carried away, dont do it white but grey, then put progressively whiter highlights inside it
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This may be because you aren't being soft enough. Crystals are smooth, typically or more accurately it is hard to paint them rough and have them looking like crystals. You should practice your drybrushing more and be very careful with it to get the effect you want.
I also suggest that after painting you apply gloss varnish to the crystals. Crystals are shiny and will look more crystaline if they are slightly reflective.
If all else fails, you may want to try a cross-hatching technique. I've seen some pretty impressive crystals done by using various shades of green. I think it would work well for a red crystal as well. Sometimes, light does funny things in real crystals and can produce glimmers of parallel lines inside the crystal, which can be mimicked with cross-hatching. Just a thought.
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I tried two suggestions from here, and came up with different results.
Started with the black undercoat, then did a light blood red light drybrushing, catching only the edges, then followed with a blazing orange light drybrushing, again concentrating on the edges. Looked basically like a black stick with a very fine edge of orange.. not really very crystal-like.
So, tried a different tack. Black basecoat, with 1:2 red gore/black as the next layer. Basically, a red-tinted black is what it came to, still very much on the black side. Then, extreme edge highlight of blood red on all edges, with extreme edge highlight of blazing orange. After that dried, I went over it with 1:1 red ink glaze, and got a pretty good looking crystal. The trick to keep it from going toward "wood" is to keep that center as dark as possible, IMO.
As soon as I can get a working camera again, I'll post up an example.
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