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I have an tau army waiting for me to paint, but i have trouble getting yellow acceptable within certain amount of effort. applying several layers of yellow does not always solve the problems i have. it might have something to do with the 'hardness' of the brush that it gets scraped off or so but i need to check that.
I wondered if slightly sanding the paints between layers would make a significant difference.
If so, it might help facilitate finishing the Tau. (btw it's golden yellow i want to have at the top layer).
the method i tried is layering with browns but after the initial layer it doesn't seem to stick properly anymore compared to an application over a primer, which obviously is of different composition.
I would like your opinions or experiences with sanding in between layers.
You shouldn't need to sand between layers and most likely will create much more work for yourself if you did. Instead of brown maybe start with a leather color. Make sure you are mixing up the yellow real good so that the pigment and binder isn't separated. Yellow also usually doesn't need to be as watered down as some colors. If it isn't covering well it might be too thin or you might have more binder than pigment.... Could be a bad batch of yellow...
Do you have pictures of what it is doing? Regardless it should stick to the prior layer.
If the paint is rubbing off, your not letting it fully dry. Its annoying as crap but you really have to make sure each layer is completely dry or you get rubbing.
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it's not pulling it of, it's not covering in the first place. i even let them stand overnight.
i did not thin the paints, but it might be possible that the pigment has been precipitated too much unbeknown to me.
it's just that additional layers just don't add anything of coverage anymore.
here is a photo of 2 experimental procedures
the 2 Shas'la's at the left, in black still have been done as following
- foundation yanden dark sun
- foundation yanden dark sun + golden yellow ± 1/1
- golden yellow
- golden yellow
the one win ghostly grey, (the rest of the color sheme) is
- Stonewall grey
- ghostly grey
- golden yellow
- golden yellow
on both the golden yellow doesn't come out quite right.
the first you still see through it, the second also, but it's greenish grey at the edges. not 'lively' enough.
and eventually with additional layers i screw up with smudging the details accidental, which i don't like either.
it might just be a to difficult scheme, but it's one i like.
i have been looking at Levis for maybe an substitute ground layer in yellow, but i haven't experimented with that yet.
i have tried the T'au scheme too, but that i had trouble with too, as filthy brown didn't cover well enough either, forcing me to go up to 5-8 layers on a devil fish.
Personally I wouldn't prime black. Even with the foundation colors you are more than likely creating more work for yourself.
Another method you could try doing is paint the base in a sand yellow. The sand yellow covers better. Afterwards you can go back over it with yellow ink to tint the yellow a stronger yellow color. I have used the vallejo game color yellow ink and I really like it. That is what I did with some blood angel scouts hair. Though I did base mine with a brown as well so if you started with sand yellow and highlighted by mixing in white you would get a richer yellow color... I would definitely recommend priming white though.
Otherwise I would look into the possibility that you have a bad paint pot. Is there a hard spot in the pot where the pigment has clumped together leaving the rest watery and translucent?
Can I suggest you undercoat black, then overpaint white (so that the white does not run into the crevices). Then work up from there.
It may be that towards the end you may have to do a couple of thinned coats of yellow to even it out.
Most importantly, you could also try to use a non GW paint which may also solve the problem.
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Any solid advice over what would work will be surely appreciated as i have no idea which alternative would give better results.
BTW I'm using valejjo game color, not GW paints.
I mostly use the vallejo game colors as well. I had a yellow pot go bad on me (pigment got rock hard and sat in the middle of the pot leaving a runny very translucent yellow left (ie mostly binder with uneven amounts of pigment).
The vallejo game color yellows are quite translucent to begin with but I am still leaning towards this being a bad pot. I would get another one and see.