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I was told by a hobby lobby employee that it was acceptable to prime models using gw chaos black spray. Not the black primer but the spray paint. I am desperately looking for a black primer to use, as the armory primer I had picked up previously worked out to be a disaster. I was wondering what your thoughts were on gw chaos black spray.
btw, there is no gw black primer at my local hobby lobby store.
I've never seen "Black Primer" in any GW store. We just use Chaos Black. Is there a difference?
Chaos Black spray is awesome, although coats can get really thick really fast.
I personally use Rust-Oleum Plastic spray paint primer and krylon plastic spray paint for color. This stuff is a hell of alot cheaper, meant to go on plastic and meant to withstand the elements so will last longer. Ive never had a problem with this stuff but it can sometimes go on a bit thick. It wasn't meant to go on detailed models but I think it works just fine.
Last edited by drdapoo; June 23rd, 2007 at 18:08.
In the rule book, on page 5, it says:
"The most important rule about playing games of Warhammer 40K is to have fun!"
The chaos black and skull white sprays are the GW primers.
There's one main difference between the GW Chaos Black spray and the paint: The finish.
GW paints have a satin finish while the spray has a matt finish.
I love using the GW spray as an undercoat/primer, espeacally since I use dark colours.
I use several thin coats of the spray covering different angles, allowing me to get the whole model coated.
If you have a lot of free time, then you could try using some whatered down Chaos Black paint to undercoat/prime your models
the gw spray undercoats are very nice but not true primers, they are just matt spray paints allowing you a porous base. as stated above a true primer such as krylon or a few from other paint lines such as testors and the general cheap stuff you find at craft stores/hardware stores will give you a better more chip resistant undercoat.
in my experiance gw sprays are excelent as long as you wash the mould release from your minis but and this is a big ghetto booty but, the tempreature and humidity of your prep area need to be consistant with the tolerances listed on the back of the can or you will end up with grainy/fuzz finish or an overabundance of propellant in your final spray
for a more user friendly basecoat go with krylon or testors primer (testors primer is the only testors product i use because most of there line is designed for scale vehicle minis and it tends to seperate faster than the actual mini paint from vallejho i use)
just use light distant swipes of it and you should find a better pigmentation hold in your final paint and you will use less coats to get a playable result .
hope this helped
The ends always justify the means
GW sells both a chaos black primer and a chaos black spray ( I am almost 100% positive they have the equivalents in white as well). There is a big difference between primer and paint. You will want to primer your figures with some form of primer albeit gw spray primer, other brands, brush on, whatever otherwise you run the risk of paint not sticking initially or long term - possible flaking and easier chipping.
talking to the owner of the store he says that IS GW BLACK PRIMER, he says they do not say anything that actually says 'PRIMER' on it. so if there is something that does, its not available to generaly gaming stores.
as such i used the GW Chaos Black spray, and it worked just fine, i really like my models that are primed with it and they paint wonderfully.
incidently if you go to GW site and click on "Spay Primers" under their paint supplies page, it takes you to:
Games Workshop US Online Store - Spray Primers
if you notice the black doesnt say primer anywhere, however it does say 'chaos black'
Last edited by sinistersp; June 24th, 2007 at 21:52.
Just to clear this up. There is a Black primer and it is labeled as such. I bought this from the LA battle bunker store approximately 2 months ago so it is practically new. Also note they used to sell other popular paint colors in spray as well as you will see the boltgun metal right next to the primer.
Outside of the US I can't say how they are labled but here in the states they have both GW black primer and chaos black paint in spray.