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hi i need help to start a black templar amry i have play tau, eldar, demon hunter and chaos so now i will start with marines and i was looking around after a good chapter and i stuck whit black templar
soo to the list
i realy like helbrecht and grimaldus and i whant to have this guys in my army
sword brethern is cool and dreadnoughts plasma is fun to
but the problem is i have never been eny good making list soo please help me out whit a good 2k black templar list