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Gonna be easier to split it into squads rather than the normal HQ, Elites Troops etc thing so here goes
9 Stern Guard
Lysander is a CC beast, especially against tanks, also gives the stern guard re-roll to hit. with 2+ to wound hell fire rounds... in rapid fire range 9 sternguard gonna cause 13-14 wounds
4 Honor Guard with relic blades
Chapter Champion with Thunder Hammer
Using Kantors rules sternguard become scoring units, plus everyone gets stubborn also unit within 12" gets +1 attack. Also, includes an orbital bombardment and a killer boltgun Honor guard nice to take down some tough elite troops, should work well i reckon
10 Sternguard with 2 multi-meltas
vet with power fist
Multi-meltas useful to shoot out of the top of the rhino, also, nice scoring unit ftw. Power fist profiding some nice CC for the squad. they can combat squad if necessary
10 man tactical squad with flamer, multi-melta
5 man scout squad with snipers
the last 2 mostly just to fill the troops choice quota, nice to have some extra scoring units as well to defend the ground while the sternguard and honor guard lead the assault
i think this list has some serious offensive capabilities along with some solid defence let me what you think please, fairly certain i've done something illegal in here somewhere. Any help at all would be appreciated altho you can tell the theme of the list i hope so nothing to drastic please
thanks alot for any suggestions
It looks fun overall, but there are a couple things.
You are kinda lacking on efficient anti-tank. The Multi-meltas really should go, imo. They don't really fit into the role of the Sternguard as the go-to unit of shooty marines. Instead, I would equip the Sternguard with lots of Combi weapons. Combi-Meltas specifically.
The honor guard with relic blades is a little pricey. I'd consider dropping two, maybe three, relic blades as you aren't lacking high strength hitting with Pedro and the Champion. These points also free you up to give those Sternguard combi-weapons.
You can't stick Lysander in a Rhino.
ah dammit, knew there would be something
I'll swap the rhino and power fist with tactical squad and keep the stern guard and Lysander back to shoot.
Champion with Thunder Hammer
4 Honour Guard with relic blades
2 Multi meltas
Sergeant with power fist
I think I'm fine with the lack of anti tank, there's just about enough in there imo. I find its more fun having something you don't do that well
Pretty happy with it i think, The marines, stern guard in rhino and kantors squad should do brilliantly in assault and can kill troops really well, also have a decent amount of meltas, plus the power fist and lysanders weapon should do well.
Very atypical list, yea.. keeping them sternguards back with lysander just seems like an aweful waste of points though imho.. you'd not get into rapid fire range nor CC where lysander excels.. he does however add alot of toughness to the squad..
You didn't listen to Squirrel about the multimeltas vs. combiweapons nor the relicblades.. So you probably wouldn't listen to me about those two things either.. Having a list you like is the most important thing anyway I just foresee you speeding around in your Rhino to get to those enemy tanks in order to bust them with the meltas wasting your otherwise awesome special ammunition.. Remember that the Rhino has to stay still for them to fire their multimeltas through the hatch and that their effective tankbusting range is only 12".. the same as most vehicles movement.. So you'd never catch up with them were they to flee.. Also it seems more beneficial to me to keep the PF in this sternguard squad rather than the tactical as you need the sternguard MM close to the enemy anyway and they're pricier afterall..