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    will it work? 1500 pts competitive gk

    HQ:

    Inquisitor Lord
    -Psycannon
    -2x Mystic
    -Heavy Bolter Servitor
    -Land Raider Transport
    Total: 362

    TROOPS:

    6x PAGK (including Justicar)
    -Incinerator
    Total: 185

    6x PAGK (including Justicar)
    -Incinerator
    Total: 185

    HEAVY SUPPORT:

    1x Grey Knights Land Raider
    -Smoke Launchers
    Total: 253

    1x Grey Knights Land Raider
    -Smoke Launchers
    -Extra Armor
    Total: 258

    1x Grey Knights Land Raider
    -Smoke Launchers
    -Extra Armor
    Total: 258

    Total: 1501

    4x Land Raiders...


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    No it won't work as you need a Grey Knight Hero to take Grey Knight Land Raiders. If you stripped a PAGK from each squad and the incinerators or moved the =][= lord down to a normal =][= and dropped all but 1 of his retinue then you could take a nekid BC to fulfill that role. Against any horde army with numbers or an Eldar / Tau army worth its salt by bringing lances/rail guns you will be boned. Perhaps making two of the GKLRs into GKLRCs might help but not much.

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    Basically what Phoenix said; this is going to cause problems for most of the usual tournament builds, but if the idea is to squeeze as many Raiders as possible into a list I've got to ask why your Lord's retinue is so expensive. Dump his wargear and take only 3 Mystics as his retinue; the psycannon and HB Servitor alone go three-quarters of the way to paying for a BroCap to make your Heavy Support choices legal.

    Personally I'd go something like this:

    HQ:
    BroCap

    Elite:
    Inquisitor Retinue
    - Inquisitor w/ bolt pistol
    - 2x Mystic
    - Land Raider w/ extra armour, Psycannon Bolts, searchlight & smoke

    Troops:
    4x PAGK & Justicar
    4x PAGK & Justicar

    Heavy Support:
    Land Raider w/ extra armour, Psycannon Bolts, searchlight, pintle-mounted storm bolter, Hunter-Killer Missile & smoke
    Land Raider w/ extra armour, Psycannon Bolts, searchlight, Hunter-Killer Missile & smoke
    Land Raider Crusader w/ searchlight & smoke

    You may want to go further and just dump the PAGKs for Stormies with flamers instead; only the GK Hero is necessary for you to take the Land Raiders, and for the same price as 5 PAGKs you could get 15 Stormtroopers. Yes, the wargear on the Raiders IS horribly excessive, but they're the spine of your army; you might as well throw as much stuff on them as possible to maximise their effectiveness.

    In that list you've got, per turn: 6 twin-linked lascannon shots, 12 twin-linked bolter shots, a multimelta, 6 twin-linked Heavy Bolter shots that ignore invulnerable saves, two storm bolter shots that ignore invulnerable saves, plus two Hunter-Killer Missiles. Only two of the Land Raiders will ever count as scoring but swapping your PAGKs for Stormies will fix that. You could have three squads of 8 ISTs with 2 special weapons apiece for the same price as those two PAGK squads; giving them Flamers will help you deal with gribbly hordes.

    Your main problems will be dealing with anything S8+ that rolls 2D6 for armour penetration (massed chainfists, melta or Rending weapons, Monstrous Creatures etc), S10 Ordnance (Medusas or Vindicators), taking out other AV14 vehicles (you only have a single melta weapon). and Lance weapons, but all of these things can be worked around.

    Another problem is that everyone will hate you on sight when you start deploying this list and they will probably spit on you and moan.

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    To go even further, I think that every one of those GKLR(C)'s need a troop choice. Since you have an almost-impregnable fortress of LR's, you might as well make them scoring. I would go something like this:

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    BroCap - incinerator or psychic hood

    Elite
    Inquisitor Retinue
    - Inquisitor w/auspex, emperor's tarot, incinerator
    - 2x Mystic
    - Land Raider

    Troops
    4x PAGK & Justicar - meltabombs
    6x Stormtroopers - 2x plasmagun
    6x Stormtroopers - 2x plasmagun

    Heavy Support
    Land Raider w/Dozer, EA
    Land Raider w/Dozer, EA
    Land Raider Crusader w/Dozer, EA

    Total - 1500

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    Only Grey Knights can go in GKLRs.

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    Says who? I know the Capacity description says it can carry Grey Knights, but I don't think that means to the exclusion of all else. They're not dedicated transports, they're Heavy slot transports :-o

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    New List [Edit]

    HQ:

    Naked BroCaptain
    -Psychic Hood
    Total: 81

    ELITE:

    Inquisitor Lord
    -Bolter
    -2x Mystic
    -Land Raider Transport
    Total: 309

    TROOPS:

    9x Stormtroopers
    -2x Flamers
    Total: 100

    9x Stormtroopers
    -2x Meltagun
    Total: 110 pts

    10x Stormtroopers
    -2x Meltagun
    Total: 120 pts

    HEAVY SUPPORT:

    1x Grey Knights Land Raider
    -Smoke Launchers
    -Extra Armor
    Total: 258

    1x Grey Knights Land Raider
    -Smoke Launchers
    -Extra Armor
    Total: 258

    1x Grey Knights Land Raider Crusader
    -Smoke Launchers
    -Extra Armor
    Total: 263

    Total: 1499
    Last edited by vertejaune; May 24th, 2009 at 16:46.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pheonix Lord View Post
    Only Grey Knights can go in GKLRs.

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    It's not exclusive. If it had said "may only transport 10 GK's in power armor or 5 GKT's", you'd be right. Otherwise, you also wouldn't be able to transport Independent Characters such as an Inq attached to the Grey Knights either.

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