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    Ard boyz list

    Here is the list iam bringin to the ard boyz. be honest and critical. I am looking for good discourse. It is an IG army with inquistoral allies. In () is their roll.


    HQCommand platoon
    Supreme commander fantleory (CREED)
    Company standard, vox caster, master of ordanace, officer of fleet, 2 vets.
    chimera with pintle stubber ( issues four orders a turn, drops a st 9 template denies reserves for my oppent, provides a rerol all from the saftey of their mobile command bunker)

    Cannoness Lizzy
    Cloak of ST. ASpira, Book of St. Luc, Jump Pack, Blessed WEapon, bolt pistol frag grenades,Mantle of ophelia. ( supports the plattoon and counter attacks)


    Troops

    33rd Rifles of Far ( infantry platoon) (firebase)

    Platoon command
    pwrfist, 4 flamers

    1st squad
    Sgt, plasma gun, missle launcher team, 6 grunts

    2nd and 3rd squads
    sgt plasma gun autocannon team 6 grunts

    heavy weapon squad
    3 las cannon teams

    45th Dragoons ( Vets) (mobile anti-armour & objective takers)
    sgt, 3 melta guns, 6 vets
    chimera extra armour, pintle stubber

    BSS Hellfire ( all round mobile objective takers )
    Vet sup with evisarator & book of st luc, melta, heavy flamer, 7 sisters
    rhino extra armour smoke launchers

    BSS Brimstone (all round mobile objective takers )
    Vet sup with melta bomb & book of st luc, melta, heavy flamer, 7 sisters
    rhino extra armour smoke launchers

    Elite

    Guardsman marbo (the new death cult assain)

    Ordo-Malleus Inquistor (jack of all mess with opp)
    Inq Eastwood Bolter, Psy hood, Tarrot cards
    hierphant, 2 mystics, 3 servitors with h. bolters

    Fast Attack
    Vet sup with evisarator & book of st luc, twin hand flamers, twin inferno pistols, 5 seraphim

    Heavy Support

    Lion of Fah ( standard russ) ( FIRE SUPPORT)
    las cannon, sponson heavy bolters

    Dragon of Far ( demolisher) ( the threat)
    plasma sponsons, las cannon dozer blade

    Exorcist (manticore) ( fire support)


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    You may want to drop one of those heavy bolters to get your inq's Ld up to 10 if you plan on using his psychic hood effectively

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.T. View Post
    You may want to drop one of those heavy bolters to get your inq's Ld up to 10 if you plan on using his psychic hood effectively
    you cannot increase elite inquisitor's LD to 10 as far as I know. maybe though seraphim around him, but I dont recall their visage rule to cite it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteRussian View Post
    you cannot increase elite inquisitor's LD to 10 as far as I know.
    I'll have to check my book when I get home, I thought they stacked up to a cap of 10.

    The seraphim's Ld boost is limited to units of sisters IIRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.T. View Post
    I'll have to check my book when I get home, I thought they stacked up to a cap of 10.

    The seraphim's Ld boost is limited to units of sisters IIRC.
    Hierophants read:
    If an inquisitor has one or more hierophants in his retinue, he gains +1 Ld to a maximum of 10" (DH codex p. 14)
    Having more than 1 will not increase it for more than +1.

    Seraphims' special rule only applies to Adepta Sororitas, you are right.

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    good to know

    i thought with command rules for the chimera the standard would be in play

    I will re model my russ for trip hevay bolter


    I know the 2 hq s are going to kill me in the 2nd scenerio but i need them both to make my army work.

    the seraphim buble works on any friendly unit but thast aside the book of st luc makes all units in 6" stubborn

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteRussian View Post
    Hierophants read:
    If an inquisitor has one or more hierophants in his retinue, he gains +1 Ld to a maximum of 10" (DH codex p. 14)
    Having more than 1 will not increase it for more than +1.

    Seraphims' special rule only applies to Adepta Sororitas, you are right.
    The intent is for it to be stackable. Otherwise, there is no need for the book to state the maximum of 10 limit as it would be impossible to get LD 10 if they weren't cumulative. But it's another one of those poorly written rules that could be rule-lawyered both ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jy2 View Post
    The intent is for it to be stackable. Otherwise, there is no need for the book to state the maximum of 10 limit as it would be impossible to get LD 10 if they weren't cumulative. But it's another one of those poorly written rules that could be rule-lawyered both ways.
    I disagree, the reason for the cap is to make sure you dont have an Inquisitor Lord with ld 11. (codex would override the rulebook in this case)

    It is worded just like any other henchman who increases a stat. If it was written "for every heirophant" than it would be a totally different idea.

    Seraphim:
    "Any Adepta Sororitas unit with a model within 6" of at least one model in the Seraphim unit adds +1 to their Leadership..." so seraphim only work for +1 LD on 6" for Adepta Sororitas (WH Codex, p.35)

    Book of St. Lucious:
    "Any friendly unit with a model within 6" may use the bearer's unmodified Leadership..." (WH Codex, p.20)

    So any friendly unit may use their LD. Witch brings a very interesting question... a unit of seraphim has models in its unit 6" within itself... do they get a +1 LD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteRussian View Post
    So any friendly unit may use their LD. Witch brings a very interesting question... a unit of seraphim has models in its unit 6" within itself... do they get a +1 LD?
    I see what you mean, the angelic visage has basically the same wording as the book (other than 'any friendly' vs 'any adepta sororitas')

    Since the book works for the unit carrying it - Seraphim logically benefit from their own aura too (except when making use of a book, which uses their unmodified Ld)

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    Here is the list iam bringin to the ard boyz. be honest and critical. I am looking for good discourse. It is an IG army with inquistoral allies. In () is their roll. i have read severeal message boards and have updated my list


    HQCommand platoon
    Supreme commander fantleory (CREED)
    Company standard, vox caster, master of ordanace, officer of fleet, 2 vets.
    chimera with pintle stubber ( issues four orders a turn, drops a st 9 template denies reserves for my oppent, provides a rerol all from the saftey of their mobile command bunker)

    Cannoness Lizzy
    Cloak of ST. ASpira, Book of St. Luc, Jump Pack, Blessed WEapon, bolt pistol frag grenades,Mantle of ophelia. ( supports the plattoon and counter attacks)


    Troops

    33rd Rifles of Far ( infantry platoon) (firebase)

    Platoon command
    4 flamers

    1st squad
    Sgt, plasma gun, missle launcher team, voxcaster,5 grunts

    2nd and 3rd squads
    sgt plasma gun autocannon team voxcaster 5 grunts

    heavy weapon squad
    3 las cannon teams

    45th Dragoons ( Vets) (mobile anti-armour & objective takers)
    Bastonne, 3 melta guns, 6 vets
    chimera extra armour, pintle stubber

    BSS Hellfire ( all round mobile objective takers )
    Vet sup with evisarator & book of st luc, melta, heavy flamer, 7 sisters
    rhino extra armour smoke launchers

    BSS Brimstone (all round mobile objective takers )
    Vet sup with book of st luc, melta, heavy flamer, 7 sisters
    rhino extra armour smoke launchers

    Elite

    Guardsman marbo (the new death cult assain)

    Ordo-Malleus Inquistor (jack of all mess with opp)
    Inq Eastwood Bolter, Psy hood,
    hierphant, 2 mystics, 3 servitors with h. bolters

    Fast Attack
    Vet sup with evisarator & book of st luc, twin hand flamers, twin inferno pistols, 5 seraphim

    Heavy Support

    Lion of Fah ( standard russ) ( FIRE SUPPORT)
    heavy bolter, sponson heavy bolters

    Dragon of Far ( demolisher) ( the threat)
    plasma sponsons, las cannon dozer blade

    Exorcist (manticore) ( fire support)


    so plan is to form a block of massed fire power with the platoon russ and manticore in the center of the board while my seraphim, the bss squads backed up by the vets & demolisher seize ground and envelop those rushing the fire base. marbo will come in where he is needed hopefullt late to contest objectives or tag team with the seraphim.

    am i getting better
    Last edited by justiceisrelative; July 6th, 2009 at 01:15.

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