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    Ard boyz list

    Here is the list iam bringin to the ard boyz. be honest and critical. I am looking for good discourse. It is an IG army with inquistoral allies. In () is their roll.


    HQCommand platoon
    Supreme commander fantleory (CREED)
    Company standard, vox caster, master of ordanace, officer of fleet, 2 vets.
    chimera with pintle stubber ( issues four orders a turn, drops a st 9 template denies reserves for my oppent, provides a rerol all from the saftey of their mobile command bunker)

    Cannoness Lizzy
    Cloak of ST. ASpira, Book of St. Luc, Jump Pack, Blessed WEapon, bolt pistol frag grenades,Mantle of ophelia. ( supports the plattoon and counter attacks)


    Troops

    33rd Rifles of Far ( infantry platoon) (firebase)

    Platoon command
    pwrfist, 4 flamers

    1st squad
    Sgt, plasma gun, missle launcher team, 6 grunts

    2nd and 3rd squads
    sgt plasma gun autocannon team 6 grunts

    heavy weapon squad
    3 las cannon teams

    45th Dragoons ( Vets) (mobile anti-armour & objective takers)
    sgt, 3 melta guns, 6 vets
    chimera extra armour, pintle stubber

    BSS Hellfire ( all round mobile objective takers )
    Vet sup with evisarator & book of st luc, melta, heavy flamer, 7 sisters
    rhino extra armour smoke launchers

    BSS Brimstone (all round mobile objective takers )
    Vet sup with melta bomb & book of st luc, melta, heavy flamer, 7 sisters
    rhino extra armour smoke launchers

    Elite

    Guardsman marbo (the new death cult assain)

    Ordo-Malleus Inquistor (jack of all mess with opp)
    Inq Eastwood Bolter, Psy hood, Tarrot cards
    hierphant, 2 mystics, 3 servitors with h. bolters

    Fast Attack
    Vet sup with evisarator & book of st luc, twin hand flamers, twin inferno pistols, 5 seraphim

    Heavy Support

    Lion of Fah ( standard russ) ( FIRE SUPPORT)
    las cannon, sponson heavy bolters

    Dragon of Far ( demolisher) ( the threat)
    plasma sponsons, las cannon dozer blade

    Exorcist (manticore) ( fire support)



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    I do not know demonhunters rules but I will comment on the IMP portion of the army.


    Chimeras - you have pintle stubbers, there is bound to be a better place for 10 points each.

    You have a Vox in your command squad but not in any other squad, a vox is required at BOTH ends

    Your standard russ has BC, LC, and HB What are you trying to shoot at? If hordes then Hull heavy bolter or flamer is better if tanks then the sponsons are not useful. Save yourself 15 or 20 points by optimising.

    The company standard does NOT work from inside a vehicle so it is useless in your stated goal.

    This list feels like it is trying to do everything at once while not quite getting there.

    Additionally I would recommend AGAINST having 2 HQ choices, look at 'Ard Boyz scenario 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by justiceisrelative View Post
    HQCommand platoon
    Supreme commander fantleory (CREED)
    Company standard, vox caster, master of ordanace, officer of fleet, 2 vets.
    chimera with pintle stubber ( issues four orders a turn, drops a st 9 template denies reserves for my oppent, provides a rerol all from the saftey of their mobile command bunker)
    I like Creed, but your list doesn't have enough infantry to make the most of him. MoO is too inaccurate, but the OotF is solid. Pintle Stubber is points filler.

    Cannoness Lizzy
    Cloak of ST. ASpira, Book of St. Luc, Jump Pack, Blessed WEapon, bolt pistol frag grenades,Mantle of ophelia. ( supports the plattoon and counter attacks)
    Don't play Sisters much, but I don't think you really need a choppy gal flitting around.

    Platoon command
    pwrfist, 4 flamers
    No powerfist, you don't do combat. Needs a Chimera if you want a response unit.

    1st squad
    Sgt, plasma gun, missle launcher team, 6 grunts

    2nd and 3rd squads
    sgt plasma gun autocannon team 6 grunts

    heavy weapon squad
    3 las cannon teams
    ML aren't great, PG are expensive, and a single HWS is bait. A single blob of 20-30 with autocannons is pretty cheap, will stick around, and can hold objectives fairly well.

    45th Dragoons ( Vets) (mobile anti-armour & objective takers)
    sgt, 3 melta guns, 6 vets
    chimera extra armour, pintle stubber


    Too much crap on the Chimera, keep it cheap. Get more of these, they rock.

    BSS Hellfire ( all round mobile objective takers )
    Vet sup with evisarator & book of st luc, melta, heavy flamer, 7 sisters
    rhino extra armour smoke launchers

    BSS Brimstone (all round mobile objective takers )
    Vet sup with melta bomb & book of st luc, melta, heavy flamer, 7 sisters
    rhino extra armour smoke launchers


    2 meltas and the Book are all you need.

    Guardsman marbo (the new death cult assain)
    Points filler, handy but not essential (free 2 KPs)

    Ordo-Malleus Inquistor (jack of all mess with opp)
    Inq Eastwood Bolter, Psy hood, Tarrot cards
    hierphant, 2 mystics, 3 servitors with h. bolters
    Needs Ld boost, Tarot Cards are worthless IIRC. A Rhino or Chim wouldn't hurt either.

    Vet sup with evisarator & book of st luc, twin hand flamers, twin inferno pistols, 5 seraphim
    Seraphim are trash, too easy to kill and not killy on their own.

    Lion of Fah ( standard russ) ( FIRE SUPPORT)
    las cannon, sponson heavy bolters
    Standard Russ sucks, lascannon hull sucks, heavy bolter sponsons suck.

    Dragon of Far ( demolisher) ( the threat)
    plasma sponsons, las cannon dozer blade


    Better, but lascannon still sucks and dozer is worthless.

    Exorcist (manticore) ( fire support)
    Like it.

    Your army is a mish mash of different stuff and doesn't really fit together to be honest. You have some mech (1 melta unit and 2 SoB units), some infantry, some tanks, and some funny bits. A battleforce army, and, unfortunately, crap.

    Pick a focus (mech, hybrid, infantry, etc) and build for it. You need to be able to handle enemy mech, enemy infantry, and mission objectives. People will be bringing 3 Land Raiders, 180 Orks (lol idiots), full on mech, and all sorts of stuff. You need to make sure you can counter that. Mech would be ==My== recommendation, they combine with Sisters extremely well. Run around, melt, burn and blast things.
    Check out ==My== blog: www.bnhblog.blogspot.com

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    wow

    I thought i wa prepared but that was harsh. i like it. my list is a hybred and uses a clasical pincer movement to acheive victory. despit whatme says i still think that the standard russ and demo are a solid combo. back to the list how much infantry does one neefd when his command radius is 24" which is more than half the table when you consider since i deploy up to12" in which + 24 is 36" so on a 48" table thats inside my opp deployment zone. 180 orks really. Any way i have done some revisions.


    I have convert my russ so it now has 3 heavy bolters. Dropeed the co banner because I can't use it insid my chimera, droped the heavy stubber from the command chimera. Land raider are an albatross if my oppent has 3 that's less units to kill. I have 5 melta guns, 3 las cannon, demolisher, rockets if iam lucky moo can also drop a template.


    WE will see should be fun

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