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    1K little bros Gameday list

    PLEASE READ FIRST: Now I know this looks like a weak list but its for a 2.5K 2v2 game for gameday. I wanted my little brother to help me with the anti-tank support and to help capture objectives if the game turns out to be an objective base game. I will also need his speed and Razorbacks as cover for my Infantry Squads. Here is the list I will be using myself: http://www.librarium-online.com/foru...-mix-list.html


    HQ
    Space Marine Captain
    -Thunder Hamer
    -Artificer Armour
    -Hellfire Rounds
    PTS:155

    Command Squad
    -Powerfist
    -Plasma pistol
    -Plasma gun
    -Razorback
    -Extra Armour
    PTS:225

    Troops
    Tactical Squad #1
    -5 additional Marines
    -Missile launcher
    -Flamer
    -Razorback
    -Extra Armour
    PTS:225


    Tactical Squad #4
    -5 additional Marines
    -Lascannon
    -Flamer
    -Razorback
    -Extra Armour
    PTS:235

    Heavy Support

    Vindicator
    -Extra Amour
    PTS:130

    Total PTS: 970


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    I think the list is incredibly standard but can work very well. You have the numbers while your brother's list has the punch behind it. I like it how the captain is simple but effective. I think a power fist is better than a thunder hammer. It's cheaper and is basically the same and I don't think that the hellfire rounds are necessary. You'll only be blazing away with one shot a turn. Also you may want to lose the plasma gun, and perhaps replace the missile launcher with something like a plasma cannon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bagotrx View Post
    I think the list is incredibly standard but can work very well. You have the numbers while your brother's list has the punch behind it. I like it how the captain is simple but effective. I think a power fist is better than a thunder hammer. It's cheaper and is basically the same and I don't think that the hellfire rounds are necessary. You'll only be blazing away with one shot a turn. Also you may want to lose the plasma gun, and perhaps replace the missile launcher with something like a plasma cannon.
    First off thank you for commenting.

    Secondly, I perfer the Thunder Hammer because it doesnt reduce my initiaitive to one and the Thunder Hammer has a lot more perks. I will agree on the Hellfire Rounds. I am sticking with the Plasmagun because itf for fluff reasons. I perfer a Missile Launcher over a Plasma Cannon any day. A BS4 is more accurate than a scatter.

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    I'm probably wasting my time, but here goes:

    Secondly, I perfer the Thunder Hammer because it doesnt reduce my initiaitive to one and the Thunder Hammer has a lot more perks. I will agree on the Hellfire Rounds. I am sticking with the Plasmagun because itf for fluff reasons. I perfer a Missile Launcher over a Plasma Cannon any day. A BS4 is more accurate than a scatter.
    Say what? I'm pretty sure a thunder hammer is just a fancy power fist with a few perks.

    HQ
    Space Marine Captain
    -Thunder Hamer
    -Artificer Armour
    -Hellfire Rounds
    PTS:155
    Lose the arti armor, hell fire rounds, and thunder hammer, take a relic blade and storm bolter.

    Command Squad
    -Powerfist
    -Plasma pistol
    -Plasma gun
    -Razorback
    -Extra Armour
    PTS:225
    Leave Command squad for the shelf.

    Troops
    Tactical Squad #1
    -5 additional Marines
    -Missile launcher
    -Flamer
    -Razorback
    -Extra Armour
    PTS:225

    Tactical Squad #4
    -5 additional Marines
    -Lascannon
    -Flamer
    -Razorback
    -Extra Armour
    PTS:235
    I'd go with a heavy bolter, lascannon, or plasma cannon. Missile Launchers are good at nothing, bad at nothing. Space marines don't need that type of weapon.

    Lose extra armor.

    These squads should be counter assault! Take a powerfist.

    Heavy Support

    Vindicator
    -Extra Amour
    PTS:130
    Guard do this type of stuff so much better. Leave the battle tanks to imperial guard.

    Why don't you focus this army on anti tank and counter assault? That's what an Imperial guard army needs.

    Something like 3 attack bikes with multi melta, 3 full tactical squads with powerfist, melta gun, and plasma cannon and razorback, and HQ with single lightening claw.

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    I would recommend NOT losing the Artificer armor on your Captain / CM. Never losing it as a matter of fact.

    Termie save in power armor? yea plz.

    oh and ya drop the ph for rb or power s. and storm bolter (never give him anything except assault tbh)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForgedInTheFurnaceOfWar View Post
    I'm probably wasting my time
    I would have to agree

    Quote Originally Posted by ForgedInTheFurnaceOfWar View Post
    Say what? I'm pretty sure a thunder hammer is just a fancy power fist with a few perks.
    I misread the rules but I still prefer a thunderhammer over a powerfist any day.

    Quote Originally Posted by ForgedInTheFurnaceOfWar View Post
    Lose the arti armor, hell fire rounds, and thunder hammer, take a relic blade and storm bolter.
    now Im not listening.

    Quote Originally Posted by ForgedInTheFurnaceOfWar View Post
    Leave Command squad for the shelf.
    nope


    Quote Originally Posted by ForgedInTheFurnaceOfWar View Post
    Lose extra armor.
    plan to keep it

    Quote Originally Posted by Brene View Post
    I would recommend NOT losing the Artificer armor on your Captain / CM. Never losing it as a matter of fact.

    Termie save in power armor? yea plz.

    oh and ya drop the ph for rb or power s. and storm bolter (never give him anything except assault tbh)
    I love Artificer Armour and I will never drop it. I have considered the Storm Bolter. The Thunderhammer I want to keep because I like what it does and I can see a use in it.

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    Thunderhammers aren't too much better than power fists. The guy doesn't get to attack back if he fails his save, but unless it's a monster or whatever he should be dead anyway. I think you should replace the hammer with a power fist and lose the hellfire rounds. Lose the extra armour on the vindicator. Keep it on the Rhinos, you want them to move as much as possible.

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    I completely read that wrong. Whoops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagotrx View Post
    Thunderhammers aren't too much better than power fists. The guy doesn't get to attack back if he fails his save, but unless it's a monster or whatever he should be dead anyway. I think you should replace the hammer with a power fist and lose the hellfire rounds. Lose the extra armour on the vindicator. Keep it on the Rhinos, you want them to move as much as possible.
    Maybe for cheese purposes I will give my CM two power weapons. I will drop the hellfire rounds. I am considering dropping the extra armour on the vindicator.

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    Quote:
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    I'm probably wasting my time

    I would have to agree
    So do you post army lists to waste my time? Did you end up making any changes at all? Next time you post an army list, I will intentionally give you bad advice to see what happens.

    but I still prefer a thunderhammer over a powerfist any day.
    WhoA! Hold on, this is the first thing you've said that makes competitive sense. At least, it sort of makes sense - since wasting your only I5 model's initiative does not make competitive sense. But thunder hammers are better and cooler than power fists for the points. So uhh, your actually taking the better of the two options between powerfist and thunder hammer. What do you think of that? Gonna switch now?

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