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    1750 points of Catachan

    I'm new to guardsmen but I think I've got a winning 'catachan' themed army.
    My calculations may not be exact and feel free to add any critisism as long as it's constructive.
    Here you go:
    HQ
    Company Command Squad - 200

    - Colonel 'Iron Hand' Straken
    -2 Plasmaguns, Medic, Standard
    Krak Grenades
    -Chimera

    ELITE
    Guardsman Marbo - 65

    Ratling Snipers - 50
    -5 Ratlings

    TROOPS
    Infantry Platoon - 235
    *Platoon Command
    -2 Flamers
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher

    Infantry Platoon - 235
    *Platoon Command
    -2 Flamers
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher

    Veteran Squad - 100
    -Lascannon, 2 Grenade Launchers

    Veteran Squad - 100
    -Lascannon, 2 Grenade Launchers

    Veteran Squad - 100
    -Lascannon, 2 Grenade Launchers

    FAST ATTACK
    Valkaryie - 130
    -Two Multiple Rocket Pods

    Valkaryie - 130
    -Two Multiple Rocket Pods



    Valkaryie - 130
    -Two Multiple Rocket Pods

    Scout Sentinel Squadron - 195
    -3x Lascannons, 3x Camo Netting, 3x Smoke Launcher

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    I'm also 80 points short of 1750 and I need some suggestions of what to do with it.
    So post a suggestion with your replys please.
    Thanx
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    I'm also aiming to put this army into tournements and so use it constantly and competetivly.
    Like I said I'm still new to guard and haven't had any game experience, thus I don't have any stratagies for them yet. If you could think of some stratagies for them also that would be great.


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    2052 (x8)

    Welcome to the Guard.

    HQ:
    Strakens a nice choice. I wouldn;t give his squad Plasma guns though. Idealy he wants to charge Infantry so stay with Assualt weapons that kill infantry. Flamers are perfect for this and although they make no use of the Veterans BS they do make sense.

    ELITES:
    Marbo is cool and very fluffy for a Catachan list. However i'd ditch the Ratlings. Sniper Rifles aren't brilliant as pinning hardly ever works and neither does rending. Put those 50pts to better use else where. Hell with the 100pts you've got left over thats a Leman Russ!

    TROOPS:
    Platoons are fine but the Veterans culd do with some work.

    Their gear is just an odd combination. Lascannons are heavy tank killers and G-Launchers are Infantry/Light tank killers. I'd ditch the Lascannons and give them Plasma/Melta guns for doing the same job - Killing tanks/MEQs and mount them the Valkaries. This will also give you some units that are mobile to take some objectives. At the moment your list is rpetty static in regards to Troop Choices.


    FAST:
    Personally I'd ditch the Sentinel Squadron and make one or two of the Valks Vendettas to be your long ranged Antitank. You've got Antihoard covered by your platoons so the Valks is a bit over kill. Plus loosing the Sentinels means you can take each Valk/Vend as a seperate unit rather than squadron them up.

    With the points saved i'd grab something like a Demolsiher or something. Just something to draw the fire away from the Valks. Valks are big, low armoured and they're the only armour you've got so will be shot to ribbons fairly quickley. You need something in there to draw that enemy fire away.

    OVERALL:
    You need some more AP2 stuff in there. You just don't have the equipment to cope with Monstrous creatures and Terminators. A Demolisher can cope with things like Terminators and Plasmgun Veterans can cope with both Terminators and M-Cs. You can always chuck in a few Demo Charges into those Vet Squads to give you some additional MEQ killyness.
    Other than that get some Mobile Troop choices in there for capturing objectives. As it is you've got nothing that strikes me as 'Objective claimers'. Maybe you plan on using the Vets in Valks but i'm not so sure as you've given them lascannons....
    Last edited by Lord Borak; August 16th, 2009 at 16:36.

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    Ok, here is my new and improved catachan themed army list.
    I think it's alright although the Hellhound could be a dogey choice.
    Here it is:
    HQ
    Company Command Squad - 200
    - Colonel 'Iron Hand' Straken

    -2 Grenade Launchers, Medic, Standard
    Krak Grenades
    -Chimera

    ELITE
    Guardsman Marbo - 65

    TROOPS
    Infantry Platoon - 235
    *Platoon Command
    -2 Flamers
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher

    Infantry Platoon - 235
    *Platoon Command
    -2 Flamers
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher

    Veteran Squad - 100
    -melta gun, 2 plasma guns

    Veteran Squad - 100
    -melta gun, 2 plasma guns

    Veteran Squad - 100
    -demo charge, 2 plasma guns

    FAST ATTACK
    Valkaryie - 130
    -Two Multiple Rocket Pods

    Valkaryie - 130
    -Two Multiple Rocket Pods


    Valkaryie - 130
    -Two Multiple Rocket Pods

    Heavy Support

    Lemen Russ Eradicator -190 points

    Hellound -130 points



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    2052 (x8)

    Unfortunatly the Hell Hound is a fast attack choice not a Heavy support so you'll need to sort something out there. Also why is the Eradicator 190pts? I'm pretty sure it's only 165pts Basic... (Not got the Codex on me) Do you mean Executioner?

    I'd swap the Weapons on the Veterans. So you've got 2x 3Melta Gun Squads and one 3x Plasma gun squad with a Demo Charge.

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    Ok here's the list once again. I've fixed all my mistakes and made an amendment to my list.
    I've given all my commands chimeras to ride in and gotten rid of the Hellhound.
    If I keep the Hellhound then I'll have to make my valkyries a single squadron.
    Tell me what you think of this change. Also I upped the price of my exicutioner by giving it two extra plasma guns with the left over points from the hellhound I got rid of.


    HQ
    Company Command Squad - 200
    - Colonel 'Iron Hand' Straken

    -2 Grenade Launchers, Medic, Standard
    Krak Grenades
    -Chimera

    ELITE
    Guardsman Marbo - 65

    TROOPS
    Infantry Platoon - 285
    *Platoon Command
    -2 Flamers
    -chimera
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher

    Infantry Platoon - 285
    *Platoon Command
    -2 Flamers
    -chimera
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher

    Veteran Squad - 100
    -3 melta guns

    Veteran Squad - 100
    -3 melta guns

    Veteran Squad - 100
    -demo charge, 3 plasma guns

    FAST ATTACK
    Valkaryie - 130
    -Two Multiple Rocket Pods

    Valkaryie - 130
    -Two Multiple Rocket Pods


    Valkaryie - 130
    -Two Multiple Rocket Pods

    Heavy Support

    Lemen Russ Exicutioner -205 points


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    I'd swap a few (or maybe all) of the Valkyries over to vendettas for long-rang AT as Lord Borak said.

    The price-tag on the Executioner with plasma sponsons should also be 230 points, not 205.

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    Ok here it is finally. I think that's all the changes i need although I'm still not sure.
    I'm now at full points value though.
    Here it is:

    HQ
    Company Command Squad - 200
    - Colonel 'Iron Hand' Straken

    -2 Grenade Launchers, Medic, Standard
    Krak Grenades
    -Chimera

    ELITE
    Guardsman Marbo - 65

    TROOPS
    Infantry Platoon - 285
    *Platoon Command
    -2 Flamers
    -chimera
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher

    Infantry Platoon - 285
    *Platoon Command
    -2 Flamers
    -chimera
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher
    ^Infantry Squad
    -Grenade Launcher, Missile Launcher

    Veteran Squad - 100
    -3 melta guns

    Veteran Squad - 100
    -3 melta guns

    Veteran Squad - 100
    -demo charge, 3 plasma guns

    FAST ATTACK
    Vendetta- 130
    -Two lascannons

    Vendetta - 130
    -Two lascannons


    Vendetta - 130
    -Two lascannons

    Heavy Support

    Lemen Russ Executioner -230 points
    -plasma sponsoons
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    2052 (x8)

    Looks like your good to go forth and kill some Xenos.

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    I wouldnt use marbo because he can be insta killed with a str 6 weapon.

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    yeah i know but this is a catachan thememed army.
    If i can keep marbo in cover while the enemy is shooting he'll be fine.
    Thanx for the replies everyone they've been most helpful.
    "Not that I have anything against senseless violence, manling, but why exactly are you strangling that old man?"
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