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    1750 Bike Army

    Hey Guys,

    Ok, so the basic idea is to have a lot of bikes, with some Tactical Squad and Vindicator support, all crashing into one section of the enemy army and then mopping up the rest. The bike squads, as well as the Tactial Squad are all outfitted to be able to deal with some close combat action. For the bikes its mainly: shoot hard, assualt, fallback, repeat or reengage elsewhere. My chapter is the Storm Hunters, basicly based around Salamander fluf and love of flame and incorpirating White Scars speed and bikes.

    My main concern is that the Tactical Squad and Vindicator will get bogged down and/or not be able to keep up with the bikes. Also, should I consider changing the Rhino for the Tactical Squad to a Razorback and combat squading the Tactials?

    HQ
    Captian Drusus 165
    SM Bike,
    Relic Blade

    Command Squad 250
    Bikes,
    3 Flamers,
    Company Standard,
    Company Champion

    Troops
    10-man Tactical Squad 235
    Flamer and Plasma Cannon,
    Sgt w/ Power Fist,
    Rhino Transport

    5-man Bike Squad 235
    2 Melta Guns
    Sgt w/ Power Fist
    Attack Bike w/ MM

    5-man Bike Squad 235
    2 Melta Guns
    Sgt w/ Power Fist
    Attack Bike w/ MM

    5-man Bike Squad 235
    2 Plasma Guns
    Sgt w/ Lightning Claw
    Attack Bike w/ MM

    Fast Attack
    2-man Land Speeder Squadron 180
    2 Land Speeder Tornados w/ Assault Cannons

    1-man Land Speeder Squadron 90
    1 Land Speeder Typhoon

    Heavy Support
    Vindicator 125
    Siege Shield

    Any comments or criticism is welcome,
    Thanks,
    Aemilius

    Last edited by Tacitus Aemilius; December 26th, 2009 at 05:57.
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    on your fast attack i would put one landspeeder in each slot instead of doubling up on one like that makes em more survivable and allows for more flexibility in your firing. Also the plasma guns arent really worth it on bikes the gets hot rule doesnt matter so much with a regular infantry marine but on bikes thats forty points your losing. I would instead go with a pair of flamers and a heavy bolter on that squad to help with some anti horde. the two squads of melta bikers should be more than enough for tanks. The tornados with assault cannons is personal preference i love assault cannons just not on my landspeeders since if you are close enough to shoot them they can usually shoot you back and landspeeders are kind of fragile but thats just me. The only thing I would say is maybe drop the command squad for more landspeeders and another vindicator cause just the one vindi will get shot to pieces pretty quick in most games. I don't know what to think about command squads myself they are either your mvp or they get destroyed before you can do anything with them. All in all its a pretty solid list and most of my suggestions are of the personal preference/playstyle sort good luck bro and I think you will do pretty good.

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    I think this army'll be a blast to play with. I'd keep the Rhino, can still Combat Squad but you've got the option of carrying the whole squad.

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    Thanks for the feedback,
    I agree that the plamsas on bikes are a slight gamble and risky, so those have been changed to flamers with a HB Attack Bike. The command squad I love, they have always proven usefull and worth their points, so I wish to keep them, but I do need another vindicator. So, buy cutting a few things here and there I have managed to fit it all in, take a look!


    HQ
    Captian Drusus 165
    SM Bike,
    Relic Blade

    Command Squad 245
    Bikes,
    2 Flamers,
    Company Standard,
    Company Champion

    Troops
    10-man Tactical Squad 235
    Flamer and Plasma Cannon,
    Sgt w/ Power Fist,
    Rhino Transport

    5-man Bike Squad 235
    2 Melta Guns
    Sgt w/ Power Fist
    Attack Bike w/ MM

    5-man Bike Squad 235
    2 Melta Guns
    Sgt w/ Power Fist
    Attack Bike w/ MM

    5-man Bike Squad 205
    2 Flamers
    Sgt w/ Lightning Claw
    Attack Bike w/ HB

    Fast Attack
    1-man Land Speeder Squadron 90
    1 Land Speeder Typhoon

    1-man Land Speeder Squadron 90
    1 Land Speeder Typhoon

    Heavy Support
    Vindicator 125
    Siege Shield

    Vindicator 125
    Siege Shield

    Total: 1750

    Thanks guys and please keep commenting,
    Aemilius
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    awesome bro i think you will do great with this list i know i would hate to face it in a tourney

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    This list is great, the one thing I would do to it is.........nothing, this list it awesome man!

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    More Revisions to the List:

    I was looking at my command squad and realizing that they are doing a duplicate job of the flamer bike squad that I already have. I am not sure this is a good thing as i then lack a squad that can effectively deal with Heavy Infantry such as sm, csm, necrons, etc. (perhaps the vindicators can handle this, I don't know) Plasma bike squad, as Dude5756 warned, could easily be the death of itself as thier weapons can over heat.

    So my question to you guys is if I should replace the command squads flamers with plamsa guns and the plamsa bike squad with flamers?
    If you could share some advice as this would take a bit of modeling and painting to switch.

    thanks,
    Aemilius
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    -Aemilius

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    Hey mate,

    why didn't you tell me you needed advice on your list?
    I rarely find the time to browse through the army lists section, but if I get personal requests -especially from friends- you can be sure that I'll see to it.

    The advice given so far wasn't bad. To free up some more points to play with I would drop the company standard (it's more of a waste in a Space Marine army, in my opinion) and downgrade the siege shields to dozer blades (re-rolling that dangerous terrain test will be enough - 1/36 is possible but pretty unlikely). Lightning claws are good, unfortunately biker sergeants can't take them.
    I do disagree with the advice against plasma guns on bikers. Being able to move 12" and still shoot them 24" is priceless, and I often use plasma bikers - to great effect. My opponents fear them very much. I would reintegrate them in the list, either put them back in the original plasma squad (then drop the illegal lightning claw on that sergeant entirely, but still leave the heavy bolter on the attack bike - this squad should be far-ranged fire support) and keep the flamers in the command squad, or put the plasma guns into the command squad and change the illegal lightning claw to a power weapon.
    I would use the leftover points we freed to add equipment to your command squad. A lightning claw or a power fist there couldn't hurt. Plasma guns are perfect in command squads because of feel no pain reducing the probability of frying your own models. Flamers are too because command squads are the only unit on Space Marine bikes that should definitely seek close combat (and therefore proximity to the enemy). Try to get as many individual models as possible (perfect for wound allocation trickery) but don't mix too wildly - your unit should still have one task it specializes in.

    You could also consider removing the command squad entirely, putting the plasma guns back into the flamer squad, and adding a third vindicator and a third typhoon. Those blast templates (both big and small) give you plenty of anti-horde firepower, you don't need to risk your bikes close-up.

    Good luck!
    Red

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