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    2500 pts ard boyz list

    Hey guys havent posted in here a while wanted to know what you think about these lists. I wont be going but on another forum some people thought these were pretty good considering its DH.

    HQ: GM with psychic hood - 165
    Retinue - 4 terminators, incinerator - 199

    Troops: 8 PAGK with incinerator - 235

    8 PAGK with incinerator - 235

    PCS with 4 Melta guns
    Chimera with HF/ML - 125

    Infantry squad with autocannon
    Chimera with HF/ML - 115
    Second GK squad takes this Chimera

    Infantry squad with autocannon - 60

    Heavy Weapons squad with 3 autocannons - 75

    PCS with 4 melta guns
    Chimera with HF/ML - 125
    Infantry squad with autocannon - 60

    Infantry squad with autocannon - 60

    Heavy weapons squad with 3 autocannons - 75

    PCS with 4 Flamers
    Chimera with HF/ML - 105
    Infantry squad with Autocannon - 60

    Infantry squad with Autocannon - 60

    Heavy weapons squad with 3 autocannons - 75

    Heavy support: LR or LRC (which one guys) with EA and Smoke - 258
    Terminators in here

    LR with EA and Smoke - 258
    First GK squad in here

    Leman Russ Battle Tank - 150
    Total 2495 - what are your thoughts guys, any changes needed?

    Pure DH force:
    Another force that probably wont do as well but its here for trial.

    HQ: GM with psychic hood - 165
    retinue - 4 terminators with incinerator - 199

    HQ: BC stern - 141
    Retinue - 5 terminators with incinerator - 245

    Elite: Inquisitor with psycannon
    Retinue - 3 warriors with 3 meltaguns
    Rhino with smoke and EA - 168

    Troops: 10 IST with 2 meltaguns
    rhino with EA and Smoke - 178

    10 IST with 2 meltaguns
    Rhino with EA and smoke - 178

    10 IST with 2 meltaguns
    Rhino with EA and smoke - 178

    10 IST with 2 Plasmaguns
    Rhino with EA and Smoke - 178

    10 IST with 2 plasma guns
    Rhino with EA and smoke - 178

    10 IST with 2 plasma Guns
    Rhino with EA and smoke - 178

    Heavy support: LRC with Smoke - 258
    GM in here

    Heavy support: LR with Smoke and EA - 258
    Stern rides in here

    Total 2502: An alternative list, dual terminator spam. I know melta IST squads should be only squads of 5 but they are 10 because they are main troop choices, i could make them 5 and cut some fat some where else however to get another inquistor melta squad. Thoughts? C and C please.

    Well thats it tell me which one you like better, me i think the first list is better.

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    you really need to space your lists better. like:

    TROOPS

    10 IST with 2 meltaguns

    10 IST with 2 meltaguns

    instead of repeating troops everywhere.

    but anyways, uhh ... stick 2 mystics on your inquisitor for the 2nd list. with that in mind, your inquisitor isnt going to do anything except get shot to sunshine before your meltaguns get the chance to do anything useful. shave off 2 ISTs from each troop selection, and make the meltagun to plasmagun ratio 4 : 2 (4 squads with meltaguns, 2 squads with plasmaguns). this saves you 120 points to spend. give your inquisitor a rhino, a close combat weapon (or even a power weapon) and the mystics. hell, if you shave off a third IST, you can probably find the points for a Dreadnought.
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    Sorry man yeh i changed it, the inquistor actually did have a rhino but it was impossible to see with my spacings all wrong.

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    I like the first list better. I'd make both LR's just regular. It doesn't really make sense for just 1 LRC when everyone is sitting back and shooting. However, if you want to add a little bite to your list consider getting rid of a few PAGK's, give each squad of PAGK's 2 incinerators, give your GM an incinerator as well and add 1 commisar to each platoon. Now your guardsmen won't crumble like paper once assaulted. They'll actually hold until you can get your GK's in there to help out.

    The second list needs more work. Your hammer unit needs to be scarier whereas your IST's need to be cheaper. I'd also throw some plasmas in the IST squads - they're just too cheap to pass up. Basically, maximize your GKT's while minimizing your IST's. As an aside, also consider using Witch Hunter battle sisters. They're too cheap and good to pass up.

    Go maybe something like this:

    GKGM - psyhood, incinerator - 185
    7x GKT's - incinerator - 337

    Stern
    7x GKT's - incinerator - 337

    10x Battle Sisters - book, heavy flamer, melta, VSS, rhino, EA, smokes - 209
    10x Battle Sisters - book, heavy flamer, melta, VSS, rhino, EA, smokes - 209
    5x IST's - 2x meltas, rhino, EA, smokes - 128
    5x IST's - 2x meltas, rhino, EA, smokes - 128
    5x IST's - 2x meltas, rhino, EA, smokes - 128
    5x IST's - 2x plasmas, rhino, EA, smokes - 128

    GKLRC - smokes - 258
    GKLRC - smokes - 258

    Total - 2446

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    Well for the first list i actually want the LR squads to be going up to the opponent and causing damage there, not just from my back line so i guess i should get both LRC?

    Interestingly JY2 you said i should put in plasmas into my IST squads yet you took out most of them.........
    Thxs for the advise so far

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    I don't like the idea of rushing 2 LR's while the rest of your army just sits back. At 2500pts there's just too much AT (namely meltas). Those 2 LR's won't last at all. Just look at all the meltas available to Space Wolves, Blood Angels, IG and even Chaos Marines. And it's near suicide to rush 2 LR's towards a Tyranid Nidzilla build. Trust me, it's better to soften them up first with a couple rounds of shooting before going in for the kill.


    Usually the ratio I like is 2 meltas:1 plasma. Meltas are much more useful. However, 1:1 ratio isn't bad either, especially if you have other AT to back them up. Thus, if you like you can go:

    2 IST's w/2 meltas
    2 IST's w/2 plasmas
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