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    2600 Points fun Drop-Troop army

    Just for a laugh I thought I'd see how expensive a 9 Valkarie/Vendetta would cost points-wise. It was less than I thought.

    This list is still a WIP, but I thought I'd post it up and see what you guys think

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    Company Command
    Straken, Kell, Medi-pack, Vox caster, Plasma Gun, Carapace armour
    2 Bodyguards, Astropath, Officer of the Fleet
    (Mounted in Vendetta)
    390

    Elites
    10 Stormtroopers
    Power Weapon, Bolt Pistol 2xGrenade Launcher
    (Mounted in Vendetta)
    185

    10 Stormtroopers
    Power Weapon, Bolt Pistol 2xGrenade Launcher
    (Mounted in Vendetta)
    185

    Troops
    10 Veterans
    Bastonne, Grenade Launcher, Plasma gun
    150

    10 Veterans
    Shotgun, Power Weapon, Flamer, Grenade Launcher, Meltagun
    100

    10 Veterans
    Shotgun, Power Weapon, Flamer, Grenade Launcher, Meltagun
    100

    10 Veterans
    Shotgun, Power Weapon, Flamer, Grenade Launcher, Meltagun
    100

    10 Veterans
    Shotgun, Power Weapon, Flamer, Grenade Launcher, Meltagun
    100

    10 Veterans
    Shotgun, Power Weapon, Flamer, Grenade Launcher
    90

    Fast Attack
    3 Valkyries
    2 with Rocket Pods
    3 With Heavy Bolter Sponsons
    390

    3 Valkyries
    2 with Rocket Pods
    3 With Heavy Bolter Sponsons
    390

    3 Vendettas
    1 with Hellfury Missiles
    3 with Heavy Bolter Sponsons
    420

    Total: 2600

    As I said, this is a WIP list, and mainly for fun, I'm tempted to add some tanks to get the list up to 3k
    I'm also going to add some Vultures for Apoc games

    C&C welcome =D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormchaser View Post
    HQ
    Company Command
    Straken, Kell, Medi-pack, Vox caster, Plasma Gun, Carapace armour
    2 Bodyguards, Astropath, Officer of the Fleet
    (Mounted in Vendetta)
    390
    Straken and kell? can you even do that? This entire squad is a humongous point sink, I would just give them 4 plasmas (or 3 plasmas and a medi pack)

    Elites
    10 Stormtroopers
    Power Weapon, Bolt Pistol 2xGrenade Launcher
    (Mounted in Vendetta)
    185
    Storm troopers and vendettas just don't go together, neither do grenade launchers... I would replace this squad with a 3x flamers + demolitions veteran squad.

    10 Stormtroopers
    Power Weapon, Bolt Pistol 2xGrenade Launcher
    (Mounted in Vendetta)
    185
    Same as above.

    Troops
    10 Veterans
    Bastonne, Grenade Launcher, Plasma gun
    150
    These guns don't mix well, and Bastonne seems a waste of points.

    10 Veterans
    Shotgun, Power Weapon, Flamer, Grenade Launcher, Meltagun
    100
    Never mix special weapons, having 3 different means they will never use all 3 to there best effect.
    Also power weapon is pointless.


    10 Veterans
    Shotgun, Power Weapon, Flamer, Grenade Launcher, Meltagun
    100
    Same.

    Etc...

    10 Veterans
    Shotgun, Power Weapon, Flamer, Grenade Launcher
    90
    same.

    Fast Attack
    3 Valkyries
    2 with Rocket Pods
    3 With Heavy Bolter Sponsons
    390
    Why only 2 with rocket pods? without rocket pods they really suck.

    3 Valkyries
    2 with Rocket Pods
    3 With Heavy Bolter Sponsons
    390
    Same.

    3 Vendettas
    1 with Hellfury Missiles
    3 with Heavy Bolter Sponsons
    420
    Don't put on hell fury missiles!!! Nooooooo...
    Vendettas are better than Valkyrie, I would swap 3 valks for 3 vendettas.

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    You seem to have missed the point. I have no intention of playing any tournaments, and I don't expect to win that often. It is a FUN army that is just for FUN.

    Yes, you can have Straken and Kell, however, I'm going to have 'counts as' models rather than the normal ones. I've also selected Bastonne because he is an awesome character who can give orders to his squad. Orders are what make an IG army, and as I'm using veterans instead of platoons, I cut down on that.

    I'm not sure I understand why Stormtroopers and Valkyries don't go together. Surely they're the best option for Valkyries, as they have carapace armour and more devastating(AP3), shorter ranged weapons.

    And the reason I chosen the weapon options I have is so any squad can deal with anything. Be it a Land raider or a squad of ork boys, each squad has the weapons to deal with it.

    And I have chosen only one squad of Vendettas because typically, there are twice as many infantry units as there are tank units
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    You asked for comments and criticism... but you don't seem to have taken anything I said on board.

    But as long as its not for a competitive environment, and you have no real hope of winning, that's fine.

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    You haven't really told me anything. You said stuff was bad, but you didn't explain why
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    Sorry, thought it would be self explanatory.

    The CCS doesn't work well with the vendetta because it doesn't add anything to it, it doesn't make it count as scoring, the models are not able to give orders, and 1 plasma gun can do very little. To me this seems to be rather expensive for what it is, and the role it fills(nothing.)

    To me, the only good way to field stormtroopers is a 5 man squad with 2 meltas, this is because of the accurate deep strike rules they get. To put them in a vendetta you are forfeiting these rules. I also think that they are over priced(unless you use the 5 man 2 melta combination), so IMO not a good combination.

    I don't think power weapons are good on ws3 models because they are unlikely to be able to hit anything anyway, and when they get in combat they are pretty much dead anyway, the faster they die the sooner I can shoot at the unit assaulting them(power weapons only making them die slower and taking up a lot of points for not much IMO.)

    I very much unlike mixing special weapons, if the squad has a purpose it should have guns to fit, having 3 different special weapons makes them less effective, and much less likely to make their points back.

    Missiles, are effectively 1 use weapons, like hunter killer missiles, would you drop the battle cannon on a russ for 2 hunter killer missiles? Also they are str 8, so they don't count as defencive weapons, and so can't be fired on the move(as well as all other weapons.)

    Vendettas are awesome as is, they don't need/ want missiles.

    Hope that helps now I have explained it a little bit better


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    And I have chosen only one squad of Vendettas because typically, there are twice as many infantry units as there are tank units
    There are better units for anti-infantry than Valkyries. Vendettas(with heavy bolters) are just better IMO.
    Last edited by Triorchin; April 16th, 2010 at 20:39.

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