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    1750pt Black Templars




    So I have finally set in stone a list that I really like the look of (on paper), it is not supposed to be highly competitive, but a little fluffy and fun for everyone that plays against it and myself. So please let me know what you all think and how you would like playing against this list:

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    Reclusiarch
    . . . . Bolt Pistol
    . . . . Powerfist
    . . . . Crozius and Rosarius
    . . . . 3x Cenobyte Servitors

    Reclusiarch
    . . . . Bolt Pistol
    . . . . Powerfist
    . . . . Crozius and Rosarius
    . . . . 3x Cenobyte Servitors

    Emperors Champion
    . . . . Accept any challenge no matter the odds

    TROOPS
    Crusader Squad
    . . . . 10x Initiates/8x Neophytes
    . . . . Power fist/Bolt pistol
    . . . . Meltagun

    Crusader Squad
    . . . . 10x Initiates/5x Neophytes
    . . . . Power Weapon/Bolt pistol
    . . . . Meltagun

    Crusader Squad
    . . . . 10x Initiates/5x Neophytes
    . . . . Power Weapon/Bolt pistol
    . . . . Meltagun

    Crusader Squad
    . . . . 5x Intiates
    . . . . Plasma Gun
    . . . . Lascanon

    Crusader Squad
    . . . . 5x Intiates
    . . . . Plasma Gun
    . . . . Lascanon

    ELITES
    Dreadnaught
    . . . . Assault Canon
    . . . . Extra Armour
    . . . . Smoke Launchers

    Dreadnaught
    . . . . Assault Canon
    . . . . Extra Armour
    . . . . Smoke Launchers

    Venerable Dreadnaught
    . . . . Tank Hunter
    . . . . TL Lascanon
    . . . . DCCW

    =1750pts

    My only concern is that without a castellan or marshal my shooty units will be testing on Ld 7 to see whether they can shoot at other targets other than the closest enemy unit, and I know that cunning players or simply players that know black templar rules will exploit this fact.

    Last edited by -The-White-Lizard-; April 29th, 2010 at 03:55.

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    Looks fairly solid, though there's a bit of nitpicking that could be done.

    -I highly suggestion dropping a reclusiarch in favour of a Marshall. Army-wide LD10 is nothing to sneeze at.
    -You may want to get a couple extra bodies(neophytes) into the home squads. 5 marines is pretty fragile, especially when they don't have rhinos to hide in.
    -I would drop the venerable dread for a regular dread, and drop the extra armour on the 3 of them, but give them some heavy flamers on the DCCWs.
    -And try to get some Holy Orbs of Antioch onto your characters. Best. Wargear. Ever.

    The biggest thing you'll have to worry about is guard mech lists. They can output AP 2/3 large blasts like nothing else. Other then that, you ought to do fine.

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    HQ
    Reclusiarch
    . . . . Bolt Gun
    . . . . Powerfist
    . . . . Holy Orb of Antioch
    . . . . Crozius and Rosarius
    . . . . 3x Cenobyte Servitors

    Reclusiarch
    . . . . Bolt Gun
    . . . . Powerfist
    . . . . Holy Orb of Antioch
    . . . . Crozius and Rosarius
    . . . . 3x Cenobyte Servitors

    Emperors Champion
    . . . . Accept any challenge no matter the odds

    TROOPS
    Crusader Squad
    . . . . 9x Initiates/8x Neophytes
    . . . . Power Fist/Bolt pistol
    . . . . Meltagun

    Crusader Squad
    . . . . 10x Initiates/6x Neophytes
    . . . . Power Weapon/Bolt pistol
    . . . . Meltagun

    Crusader Squad
    . . . . 10x Initiates/6x Neophytes
    . . . . Power Weapon/Bolt pistol
    . . . . Meltagun

    Crusader Squad
    . . . . 5x Intiates 2x Neophyte
    . . . . Plasma Gun
    . . . . Lascanon

    Crusader Squad
    . . . . 5x Intiates 2x Neophyte
    . . . . Plasma Gun
    . . . . Lascanon

    ELITES
    Dreadnaught
    . . . . Assault Canon

    Dreadnaught
    . . . . Assault Canon

    Dreadnaught
    . . . . Assault Canon

    =1744pts

    A few slight modifications, I realize that a marshal or castellan would be of great benefit, but I feel if I replace a reclusiarch then it starts to take away from the overall theme of being able to run across the board and beat stuff up. As I have previously said, this list was not intended to be highly competitive, but fun for everyone that plays it. Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated.
    Last edited by -The-White-Lizard-; April 30th, 2010 at 03:27.

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    Nice

    Completely agree with watchwood.
    And remember with accept any challenge you dont need the charge bonus conferred by chaplains. So the Ld Bonus can come in handy.
    The heavy flamers are a brilliant attachment for the dreads, but dont go out your way to get them.

    and anyone.. *holy orb 5!* come on. gimme this one...

    Like the extra shields in the shooting squads (anyone else picture a marine saying "and this is how you aim a lascannon little one" *aims at random empty can on wall instead of enemy MC*)

    I'd say this list is really good actually. Very similar to my rewrite list
    "I have dug my grave in this place and I will either triumph or I will die!" Reclusiarch Grimaldus

    "Those I cannot crush with words I will crush with the Tanks of the Imperial Guard!" Lord Solar Macharius

    "Hear Me Inquisitor Ordinary. Obey me. I am of the Malleus!" Inquisitor Jaq Draco

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    Thanks for the feedback. The only reason I run with the chaplains is for the auto passing of righteous zeal movements with +3" thanks to cenobytes, and the extra cenobytes stop him from being instant deathed by walkers that choose to hit him due to his powerfist. I have had some bad experiences with my crusader squads getting caught up in combat with a dred, and the dred 1 hits my castellan, meaning I can no longer hurt the bloody thing, and my 15-20 man unit has been wasted.

    Also I dont believe the dreds will last too long, so i didnt want to spend unnecessary points on them ie.. the heavy flamers.
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    I'm speaking from personal experience about the dreadnoughts - between the heavy flamer and the assault cannon, you can easily kill most of a squad of guys with a 4+ or worse save, and probably finish or break them in the assault. Give it a try, I've found that the difference is well worth the 10 points. I never field a dreadnought without upgrading the storm bolter any more.

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    I will definately give it a try and see how they fare, probably drop a few neophytes to get the points, thank you.

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    Hold on...you get charged BECAUSE of the powerfist? Thats insane. Agree with what your saying though. Don't cenobytes stop you being able to join a unit though? As they count as a retinue...cant remember off top of my head so may be wrong.

    Completely understad what your saying about the theme of the list.
    "I have dug my grave in this place and I will either triumph or I will die!" Reclusiarch Grimaldus

    "Those I cannot crush with words I will crush with the Tanks of the Imperial Guard!" Lord Solar Macharius

    "Hear Me Inquisitor Ordinary. Obey me. I am of the Malleus!" Inquisitor Jaq Draco

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    Nope, they don't stop the chaplain+retenue from joining another unit. It's one of those things that makes them a good edition to the footslogging crusader squads.

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    I dont get charged because of the fist, it is just that when I do get into combat with walkers the Castellan usually dies before he gets to hit. due to the fist being the only threat that can hurt them, so I prefer to use the chaplains with cenobytes.

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