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I will be gradually completing the things on this army list. I have no idea of point because I have yet to get a codex.
Not yet bought
Captain, Lightning claws, Storm Bolter
Terminator Squad, 5 Storm Bolters, 1 Power Sword
Dread, Power Fist, Lascannon
Dread, Multi-Melta, Power Fist
10-man Tact Squad, one Flamer, one Missile launcher, one Chain sword (Sergeant) , Rhino
5-man Tact squad, one Lascannon, one Multi-Melta
5-man Scout Squad, Sniper Rifles, Sergeant Telion
Land speeder unit, 3 Normal
3-man Bike squad, 2 Plasma Cannons
Let me know if there is anything i should change.
PS: Built from Assault on Black Reach set (but only containing 1 thing from it lol)
Edit: Damn, gonna be hard to get 'coz of the new price increases $74 for a Vindicator YOU GOTTA BE ****ING ME!
Last edited by Pyromaniac605; June 18th, 2010 at 06:30.
What do you think about swapping out the Sternguard squad for the AoBR termies?
Last edited by Pyromaniac605; June 4th, 2010 at 11:19.
Really? No one has anything to say?
Still! No one has anything to say!?
I wouldn't claim to be an expert but here are a few observation that are hopefully accurate. Your list seems to come to roughly 2100pts. I would say get a codex asap as it is invaluable in preparing lists.
I would personally drop the captain, put the chaplain with terminator armour ( or cassius even) in a redeemer with the assault terminators. Keep the black reach dread and possibly add TLAC dread. Up the 5 man tac to 10 and put it in a rhino. Drop the std speeder and bike squad and add 2 units of attack bikes. Then fill up on vindicators or preds depending on your cash and points left.
Hope i'm of some help.
Nice idea about the Chap in Termie armour I'll have to look into that.
I only recently learnt how transport works for Termies so I will probably put them in a LR.
I really prefer the lascannons over the multi-melta on dreads though.
3 combi-meltas seems a bit much IMHO.
Uprgrade the 5-man to a 10-man then.
Why wouldn't you mix LS?
I might add an attack bike squad then.
Replace with Redeemer most likely.
I'll figure out what Pred when I get the kit.
So the LR wouldn't draw fire away from the Vindicator?
Last edited by Pyromaniac605; June 7th, 2010 at 22:42.
Apologies didn't read the captain correctly.
. I've played an all bike and speeder army for the last year now so may be a bit out of touch with a normal marine list. Still i hated seeing an army list get no replies as it reminded me of when i've posted a list and no one replied. So until anyone else chips in i hope i'm not leading you too far astray with my suggestions.
As far as the dread you've got a MM one with black reach so it saves spending pennies. Also lascannons aren't great at av14 you need melta for this. In my area there is lots of av14, if not then go Lascannon if thats what you want. Sometimes you just need to say i like and i want it.
I've found from harsh experience that it usually takes at least 3 melta shots to cause suitable damage to armour. Combi-melta are one shot meltas only so if that one misses you ar screwed. If you take 3 or maybe even 4 it helps raise the chance of destroying the vehicle. 1 in 3 shots fail to hit and by the time you factor in armour penetration rules it's best to be sure.
Typhoons are fantastic as i said i own 6 but when you're firing kraks the HB will not sync with the others. The odd bolter speeder will sync well when firing with frags and HB though. I just like to keep my typhoons safe at 48" until the enemy is whittled down a little, which they are a great help in doing. I'd find the points to make it a typhoon aswell or drop it and use the points elsewhere. The heavy bolter speeder IMO is just a bit frail and costly. A single Hb attack bike will come in cheaper and move just as far but with 2 wounds instead of av.
Before i changed to a bike army i tried one bike squad and it just didn't fit well with the list. I would say that two unit of solely attack bikes would be better. You can only add one attack bike to a bike squad but can take them individually in squads of up to 3. You need some av killling in the list and 2x2 MM attack bikes are very mobile and should provide this.
My view is probably a bit skewed as my list is quite different but out of 3 vindicators only 1 usually sees it past the fist turn.
Feel free to ignore me though as i know what it's like when you have an idea and you get told it's not going to be competitive enough. If you just play for fun go with what you want.
I was thinking of swapping the Vets for for the AoBR Dread and I could possibly have (in time) a full squad of each type of LS so I can use different ones depending on the situation.
Edit: Changed list to a more manageable level. Going for around 1500 points.
Last edited by Pyromaniac605; June 8th, 2010 at 06:59.
Gave the scouts Snipers.
*bump* Changed the captains gun to a storm bolter after an unfortunate accident.