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    2k - Tourney Blood angels mech

    I'm trying to come up with the most competitive 2k blood angel list I can. This is the best I can think of so far:

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    Librarian - 110
    -Hand Flamer
    -Lance & Shield psy-powers


    Troops

    5 Assault Marines - 130
    -Meltagun
    -Discount Razorback

    5 Assault Marines - 130
    -Meltagun
    -Discount Razorback

    5 Assault Marines - 130
    -Meltagun
    -Discount Razorback

    5 Assault Marines - 130
    -Meltagun
    -Discount Razorback

    5 Assault Marines - 130
    -Meltagun
    -Discount Razorback

    5 Assault Marines - 130
    -Meltagun
    -Discount Razorback


    Elites

    7 Sternguard - 280
    -3 Combi-meltas
    -3 Combi-flamers
    -Powerfist
    -Rhino

    Brother Corbulo


    Fast Attack

    BAAL Predator - 145
    -TL Assault Cannon
    -Heavy Bolters

    BAAL Predator - 145
    -Flamestorm Cannon
    -Heavy Flamers
    -Dozerblade

    BAAL Predator - 145
    -Flamestorm Cannon
    -Heavy Flamers
    -Dozerblade


    Heavy Support

    Predator - 100
    -Autocannon
    -Heavy Bolters

    Predator - 100
    -Autocannon
    -Heavy Bolters

    Whirlwind


    What do you think? The librarian goes with the sternguard and corbulo. The re-roll will usually be used on a psychic test or the distance for blood lance.

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    You have plenty of dakka, but your lack of ranged AT scares me. Some lazorbacks and autolas-preds are needed. I'd also dump the sterns for maybe a couple of dual-talon furiosos to discourage assaulters.
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    I have 6 meltaguns, 3 combi-meltas, 1 TL assault cannon, 2 autocannons, a blood lance and enough heavy bolters the dakka my way through side/rear armour if needed. Are you sure this isn't enough?
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    You have a lot of anti-infantry fire in all those heavy bolters. However, your main source of AT are meltas. Unfortunately, to use them you need to expose your vulnerable troops to the enemy. In this type of list, you don't really want to do that until it is absolutely necessary (or unless you're playing against IG or Tau). In other words, keep your troops inside for as long as possible. You want to be able to destroy as much armor as you can from a distance first. That is where you are lacking. With only 1 TL-assault cannon and 2 autocannons, you really don't have enough ranged shooting. I can just see battlewagon ork army, nidzilla or mechguards run roughshod through this list.



    I would go something like this:

    Librarian - 100
    -Lance & Shield psy-powers

    Corbulo

    5 Assault Marines - 160
    -Flamer
    -Razorback - Lascannon + TL-plasmas

    5 Assault Marines - 160
    -Flamer
    -Razorback - Lascannon + TL-plasmas

    5 Assault Marines - 125
    -Flamer
    -Discount Razorback

    5 Assault Marines - 130
    -Meltagun
    -Discount Razorback

    5 Assault Marines - 130
    -Meltagun
    -Discount Razorback

    Furioso - Dual Blood Talons - 125

    Furioso - Dual Blood Talons - 125

    BAAL Predator - 145
    -TL Assault Cannon
    -Heavy Bolters

    BAAL Predator - 145
    -Flamestorm Cannon
    -Heavy Flamers
    -Dozerblade

    BAAL Predator - 145
    -Flamestorm Cannon
    -Heavy Flamers
    -Dozerblade

    Predator - 135
    -Autocannon
    -Lascannons

    Predator - 135
    -Autocannon
    -Lascannons

    Predator - 135
    -Autocannon
    -Lascannons

    Total - 2000


    That's:

    1 TL-Assault cannon
    2 Flamestorm cannons
    2 TL-plasmas
    3 Autocannons
    3 Flamers
    4 Heavy flamers
    4 Meltaguns
    5 Heavy bolters (3 TL)
    8 Lascannons
    8 AV13 vehicles

    You've also got 2 anti-assault deterents in the form of 2 furiosos. Frankly, I don't think you need Corbulo and can swap him + 1 predator for 1 assault squad in razorback + whirlwind, but that's up to you.
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    That looks a bit better lol. I have tested my army out on vassal and have decided with your suggestions and my personal preference to go with this:

    HQ

    Librarian - 100
    -Lance & Shield psy-powers


    Troops

    5 Assault Marines - 130
    -Meltabombs
    -Meltagun
    -Discount Rhino (need top hatch for librarian powers, treat it as a rhino armed with a blood lance.)

    5 Assault Marines - 130
    -Meltagun
    -Discount Razorback

    5 Assault Marines - 130
    -Meltagun
    -Discount Razorback

    5 Assault Marines - 130
    -Meltagun
    -Discount Razorback

    5 Assault Marines - 130
    -Meltagun
    -Discount Razorback

    5 Assault Marines - 130
    -Meltagun
    -Discount Razorback


    Elites

    Furioso - 125
    -Blood Talons
    -Magna Grappler

    Furioso - 125
    -Blood Talons
    -Magna Grappler


    Fast Attack

    BAAL Predator - 145
    -TL Assault Cannon
    -Heavy Bolters

    BAAL Predator - 145
    -Flamestorm Cannon
    -Heavy Flamers
    -Dozerblade

    BAAL Predator - 145
    -Flamestorm Cannon
    -Heavy Flamers
    -Dozerblade


    Heavy Support

    Predator - 135
    -Autocannon
    -Lascannons

    Predator - 135
    -Autocannon
    -Lascannons

    Predator - 135
    -Autocannon
    -Lascannons



    I'm still keeping the meltaguns on the assault marines as I like the ability to deal with terminators and AV14 vehicles. I've gone for another assault squad for more raw firepower over corbulo. Autolas preds and furioso's I have gone for on your suggestion.
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    So how'd it go on vassal? That's a ton of vehicles there.
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    Cool army. I'm unfamiliar with blood angels. Are normal dreadnoughts heavy support for them? And Furioso's the elites?

    Anyway the dreads seem like the weakest party of the army. But, I can see how it would be nice to have a couple of close combat monsters defending your otherwise shooty army. I don't think I like the heavy flamers on the Baals.

    If you can put heavy flamers on them, put them on the dreadnoughts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForgedInTheFurnaceOfWar View Post
    Cool army. I'm unfamiliar with blood angels. Are normal dreadnoughts heavy support for them? And Furioso's the elites?

    Anyway the dreads seem like the weakest party of the army. But, I can see how it would be nice to have a couple of close combat monsters defending your otherwise shooty army. I don't think I like the heavy flamers on the Baals.

    If you can put heavy flamers on them, put them on the dreadnoughts.

    Furioso's have front armour 13 O_o so less of a weak point...
    As for the allocation slots... Normal Dreads are Heavy, Furioso's are Elite and Death Company are Troop.


    Edit: Oh and I agree.. make the Baal Preds assault cannon versions... only fitting as your a shooty army and wont be going to them... If not I'd (as your opponent) pick them off before they could do anything.


    As for this list... I have been thinking of doing a similar varient.. may play test a similar one to yours for fun .
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    Quote Originally Posted by jy2 View Post
    So how'd it go on vassal? That's a ton of vehicles there.
    I won, with fair ease. The whirlwind was useless so i've changed it. I played against a mech-white scars list. I just headed for the centre of the board and then just moved around his units first killing most of the transports and then sending all the assault marines off , disembarking together and opening fire combined with the whirlwind against 2 of his squads killing about 13 out of 18 (2 died in explosion when transports died)

    My blood-talon dreads got in range of another squad and killed it on the charge.

    The sternguard shot at a tactical squad and killed 7 out of the 10. The librarian split from the squad and killed a bike and his last remaining rhino with a blood lance.

    His turn proved mostly ineffective, his bike squad did damage to my sternguard and his tactical marines rapid fired me killing a total of 2 assaultmarines and 3 sternguard. My turn pretty much tabled him and we called it game. Blood talon dreads charged his last full-tactical squad (the one in the rhino i killed last turn) and the assault marines assaulted his remaining 5 marines killing them. The libby charged and killed the 3 left tacticals, taking a wound in return and the sternguard + ass cannon BAAL pred finished off the bikers leaving Khan on 1 wound. Then my Flamy-doom BAALs killed the last 2 tactical squads that had been walking ever since I blew up their rhinos turn 2. They took a while since when he out-flanked away from them and the avoided the meltaguns. Still both made their points back . His turn he had 1 full tactical squad and Khan. I had pretty much everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shas_on_u View Post
    Furioso - 125
    -Blood Talons
    -Magna Grappler

    Furioso - 125
    -Blood Talons
    -Magna Grappler
    Just noticed these should be 140pts each..

    The reason I noticed is that I've made myself a variant of this list (with my models in mind)

    This is what I would do...

    HQ.
    Librarian 100
    Librarian 100

    Elite.
    Furioso Dread
    Dual Blood claws
    125 pts x2

    2 Sang Priest with P/w 130

    Troop
    Assault (5)
    P/w
    Melta
    Razor
    145pts x3

    Assault ( 8 )
    P/fist
    Plasma
    Rhino
    209pts x2

    Fast
    Baal Pred
    H/bolters
    145pts x2

    Heavy
    Predator
    Las spons
    135pts x2


    Basically, rhinos have a libby and a Sang priest each... giving them a bigger spread and the plasma is there to give a better range shot out of rhino hatch...
    Sangs are there to help give any man on the ground a fighting chance (5 man teams are rather weak and frail)

    It leaves me with 7 points which I cant for the life of me figure out what to do with.

    EDIT: A thought could be to lose the melta and p/w from the razorback and just make them fast moving h/bolter scoring units. This would free 75pts
    Last edited by Lord Lucias; September 16th, 2010 at 23:18.

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