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Is there a non-mech Imperial Guard build that is actually competitive, i dont mind fielding a few Leman Russ Variants but a guy at our local centre plays full mech guard, and he is very 'strange' about people playing guard let alone trying to build a competitive list, so was looking at what are the other option to everything in Chimera and some valkryries/vendettas...So is there any other really competitive lists? I dont expect people to give me there lists but a point in the right direction would be helpful.
The short answer is: Yes! But most competitive lists will still include quite a few tanks. They're one of the Guard's best advantages.
There was a topic in the main IG forum last week (?) that covered most of the major competitive IG builds. Look around the army list forum too. There's LOTS of example lists and more advice/commentary than you can shake a Commissar at.
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This is probably the thread that Sandwyrm is referring to:
"To each his own"
To overly simplify things, you'd be looking towards a "Hybrid" list (in my post on that thread), or a "Mixed" list on Sandwyrms list. They're the same thing (though sand breaks it down further then I do).
I've never really played full mech for long, and stuck to my guns as a Hybrid player(and for short while, Air calvary), and it just goes to show how versatile we can get.
If your buddy is loaded up on russes and you want to do the exact opposite, it's completely possible, and is, in fact, viable.
But most of all, don't let someone else not wanting you to play IG impact how you want to play. Have fun!
Blob squads are what you're looking for. I always recommend the following setup to new Guard players:Originally Posted by Meir Link
PCS in Chimera
Two infantry squads blobbed together, with a Commissar
Platoon 2: same
I deliberately left out all the options; this is only a framework. The beauty of this configuration is that the CCS has two good targets for his two orders, the list is very forgiving (i.e. doesn't die instantly in combat) and has both static and mobile elements. Depending on what parts of this list you like, you can easily tweak it to be any non-purist type of army with no wasted models.
If you feel strongly about avoiding transports then you'll need to use outflanking units for your offensive element, and that means you'll need Creed and/or Al'Rahem. Check them out and see if you feel inspired.
"My tanks have names, my men have numbers." -Col. Edmund Grahvess, 23rd Kronecker Prison Guard