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    1.5k Dark Angels Vs Imp Guard with Witch Hunter Inquisitor

    Right, I've put off facing a "friend" for long enough, mainly because he plays dirty, he deliberately goes through as much effort as possible to find out exactly what his opponent's army is before hand so he can write an army list designed specifically for winning, so any help would be appreciated, we've all had enough of his boasting arrogant and unsporting behaviour... and well when people are actually telling me to beat him in a game i know things need to change... though i'm really not looking forward to it...

    Here's the list he knows i use:

    HQ:
    Belial 130
    Sword of silence, storm bolter,

    Librarian 145
    Terminator Armour, Hellfire*, Force Barrier* (*- not that i have a choice)

    Troops:
    Terminator Squad A 250
    1 with pair of claws, 1 with Assault cannon , 1 Sergeant, 1 chainfist, 1 power fist

    Terminator Squad B 275
    1 pair of claws, 1 assault cannon, 1 sergeant, 1 chainfist and company banner, 1 powerfist

    Terminator Squad C 245
    1 pair of claws, 1 assault cannon, 1 sargeant, 2 powerfist,

    Terminator Squad D 240
    1 pair of claws w/ cyclone launcher, 1 chainfist, 1 sergeant, 2 powerfists

    Terminator Squad E 240
    1 pair of claws w/ cyclone launcher, 1 chainfist, 1 sergeant, 2 powerfists

    Right the army he generally uses follows these guidelines: 3 vendettas, inquisitor in valkyrie (plasma retinue), use of veterans with plasmas and meltas, platoon with autocannons, creed with meltas, 3 leman russ battletanks and a banewolf -

    Naturally i dont fear leman russes and banewolves because i still get my armour save - but i bet he'll "class" em ass demolishers and use the banewolf as a devildog, and of course swap out for more meltas and ap 2 weapons, here are three army lists i'm considering using - which do u think would be best? and how can i further improve them?

    Ravenwing:

    HQ:
    Sammael 205
    Land speeder

    Troops:
    Attack Squad 320
    6 bikes, 2 plasma guns, power weapon, melta bombs, 1 melta attack bike

    Attack Squad 295
    6 bikes, 2 flamers, power weapon, 1 melta attack bike

    Attack Squad 205
    3 bikes, 2 meltas, power weapon, 1 melta attack bike

    Fast Attack:
    Support Squad 100
    1 landspeeder with multi melta and assault cannon

    Heavy Support:
    Vindicator 125
    Vindicator 125
    Vindicator 125

    Deathwing Version 2:

    HQ
    Belial 130
    (as above)

    Elites:
    Mortis Dreadnought 125
    2 Twinlinked Autocannons

    Mortis Dreadnaught 105
    2 Missile launchers

    Troops:
    Terminator Squad A 250

    Terminator Squad B 275

    Terminator Squad D 240

    Heavy Support:
    Vindicator 125 x3 = 375

    Or Deathwing Ravenwing Hybrid

    HQ:
    Belial 130

    Elites:
    Mortis Dreadnought 155
    2 Twin Lascannons

    Troops:
    Terminator Squad A 250

    Terminator Squad B 275

    Terminator Squad D 240

    Fast Attack:
    Ravenwing Attack Squad 300
    6 bikes, 2 flamers, power weapon, melta bombs, 1 melta attack bike

    Heavy Support:
    Vindicator 125 x2 = 250


    Sorry for such a long post but thanks a lot to all those who read through and help (rep to all who do - unless they deliberately just say something for the rep...)

    Win Loss Ratios:
    GK: 2:1 Daemons: 5:2 SoB: 5:1 CSM: 1:1 IG: 5:2 BA: 3:1 Deathwing: 6:1 Ravenwing: 1:3 DA 3rd Company: 3:1 SM: 3:1 Necrons: 5:1

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    Go take a look at the new FAQ - Your Storm Shields now provide a 3++ invul save against EVERYTHING, and your Cyclone launchers are now heavy 2 weapons.

    My suggestion is to run everyone with a hammer and shield, and have a cyclone launcher on every squad. 2+/3++ laughs at the best efforts of pretty much everything, and you can use the cyclone launchers to bring down Vendettas and similar vehicles from range. I suggest taking something like this:

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    235 Deathwing Squad, 5x Hammer/Shields, Cyclone Launcher

    235 Deathwing Squad, 5x Hammer/Shields, Cyclone Launcher

    235 Deathwing Squad, 5x Hammer/Shields, Cyclone Launcher

    235 Deathwing Squad, 5x Hammer/Shields, Cyclone Launcher

    235 Deathwing Squad, 5x Hammer/Shields, Cyclone Launcher

    190 Ravenwing Squadron, 2x Meltaguns, MM Attack Bike

    That'll give you 5 nigh-unkillable units with some decent long-ranged firepower, and a pair of small units you can use as suicide-melta for taking out the Demolishers if they start to cause you problems.

    Just make sure you print out the FAQ and take it with you, eh?

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    ooh i'll go checkl that FAQ - thanks a lot, unfortunately i only own enough for 5 hammer shields, and tht would mean killing some current termies.... mmm i can kill th sergeants
    Win Loss Ratios:
    GK: 2:1 Daemons: 5:2 SoB: 5:1 CSM: 1:1 IG: 5:2 BA: 3:1 Deathwing: 6:1 Ravenwing: 1:3 DA 3rd Company: 3:1 SM: 3:1 Necrons: 5:1

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    damn the faq says about asking opponents permission about it and i doubt said "friend" would allow because he just loves winning...
    Win Loss Ratios:
    GK: 2:1 Daemons: 5:2 SoB: 5:1 CSM: 1:1 IG: 5:2 BA: 3:1 Deathwing: 6:1 Ravenwing: 1:3 DA 3rd Company: 3:1 SM: 3:1 Necrons: 5:1

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    Where do you see that? Because it says right at the top of the PDF that it's an official update. It's not like it's INAT or something, the Amendments/Errata/FAQ is just as official as the book itself.

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    Ah i found th old FAQ lol i've just printed off the new one from my local gw today thank you very much
    Win Loss Ratios:
    GK: 2:1 Daemons: 5:2 SoB: 5:1 CSM: 1:1 IG: 5:2 BA: 3:1 Deathwing: 6:1 Ravenwing: 1:3 DA 3rd Company: 3:1 SM: 3:1 Necrons: 5:1

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    lol, glad to help.

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