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This army is basically made around the battleforce and other guys that i have had and given a blood angels remake with the spare parts from the battle force. it is not exactly 1600, just a bit over i think.
hq - reclusiarch (no upgrades)
elite - 2 snaguinary priests, 1 with jump pack
troop - 2x ten man tac squads with rocket launcher and flamer with searg/w power fist
in a rhino
troop - 5 death company with 1 power weapon, 1 PF, 1 inferno pistol and 2 bolters In a rhino
troop - 10 assault marines with PF, hand flamer and inferno pistol.
fast attack - vanguard vet squad with PF, 2 PW and a inferno pistol.
heavy support - 2 vindis, FAAAAAASSSSSSST!
i am just wondering how competetive it is (probably not very) and what you think i should buy next.
Last edited by mr.darkness; February 12th, 2011 at 19:10.
There's probably not enough regular melta weapons in there to take out tanks, but it's not a terrible list - the DC need a transport though, else they're pretty useless. Stormraven, Land Raider, Drop Pod - all good options, and all would allow you to bump the squad up by another 4 men and still travel with the reclusiarch.
Otherwise, I'd look at Land Speeders, Typhoon Variants are just killing on a still.
So where do you get your melta? Do you have devastators squads, or do you just put it in your tac squads?
P.s. Sorry forgot to mention that the DC have a rhino as well. Do they need a better transport, or is that good enough?
Any transport is a hundred times better than walking I usually have meltas in my tactical and assault squads - inferno pistols I keep for units that'll be assaulting out of units as it's more likely they'll be in close enough range. Those extra 6" on a meltagun make a LOT of difference.
Aaah, maybe i will try to get some melt as in my tac squads then.
So, based on what i already have ( all of the above, an third vindicator, and 2 land speeders) what do you think I should get next? I was thinking about a storm raven to transport the death company, or maybe some sanguinary guard?
My top 3:
Honour Guard are nice, as they give you a good unit complete with Blood Chalice, and don't take up a slot
Sternguard are as awesome (especially in Drop Pod) for Blood Angels as they are anyone else.
Dreadnoughts are INCREDIBLY dangerous to your opponent, no matter what flavour
Devestators - too expensive for what they do, and can't move and fire so too easy for your opponent to avoid
Sanguinary Guard - Honour Guard do it all better
Bike Squads - BA can't make them into troop choices, so most of the time Attack Bike or LAnd Speeder Squadrons are a preferable choice
is there actually a box for Honour guard or do you have to just make them out of other bits?
i have been looking at the dreadnoughts. i was thinking of getting a stormraven, so maybe i could do a furioso dread on the back of that. i would give it two blood talons and then see how much damage he and the DC could do.
you might not know, but how much can you magnetise on the BA dread box? i mean, is it possible to magnetize the arms and the fronts so you can either have a furioso or a librarian furioso?
I'll be building mine out of the command squad, and some sanguinary guard jump packs (I hate the rest of the models but the JPs are darn cool)
Not sure about the dread but I imagine not on the front panels - but the weapons you can and at the end of the day that's what matters.
I just played a game against chaos, 1500 pts. I lost but by about 3 kp but the guys on the table were about even. I learnt quite a lot.
Don't commit the assault squad too early. I advanced them a bit too quick and they got slaughtered by chorine beserkers assaulting out of a land raider.
Vanguard veterans did rubbish. They charged the unit that had just killed the assault troops, and promptly all 5 of them got killed by one chaos lord.
dC with reclusiarch are awesome!!! They got charged by a unit of 12 chorine beserkers, lost 1, then destroyed all of them!
The vindicators did a reasonable job but I don't think that they earned their points back, so i am probably dropping them.
Finally the sanguinary priests performed above expectations, allowing my guys to compete in close combat with a chorine beserker army..... Almost
Taking what happened into account, this is my new army list.
Troop 10 DC with 2 pw, 2 pf, and 1 hand flamer
Troop 2 squads of ten tac marines with flamer and rocket launcher, and serge with pf
Troop 10 assault marines with inferno pistol
Fast attack Baal predator with flame storm cannon
Heavy support 2 dreadnoughts with multi meltas and blood fists
Elite 2 sanguinary guard with 1 jump pack
What do you think. I have used your advice and also what i learnt in the game.