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#1 · (Edited)
since starting grey knights ive been useing 4 lists so far two crowe lists a drago and a coteaz lists all 4 have strong points and down sides, but which list would you guys run be it from a compediditve stand point, fluff, fun, or just because you think it would look cool on the board.
hq
crowe (razorback)
librarian (stormraven)
-psyboltammo, staff, telehomer, 3x servo skulls, 4powers and brain mines
powers-
might of the titan(lib assault phase)
the shrouding(opponent's shooting phase)
warp rift(lib shooting phase)
sanctuary(opponent's assault phase)
other powers
force weapon( lib assault phase)
hammerhand (lib assault phase)

troop
purifier squad(stormraven)
ten man squads
-4x psycannon, 4x halberds, 1x staff, 1x hammer and psyammo.
purifier squad(stormraven)
ten man squads
-4x psycannon, 4x halberds, 1x staff, 1x hammer and psyammo.
purifier squad(stormraven)
ten man squads
-4x psycannon, 4x halberds, 1x staff, 1x hammer and psyammo.

heavy support
Dread(stormraven)
-heavy flamer with psyflame and multi-melta
Dread(stormraven)
-heavy flamer with psyflame and multi-melta
Dread(stormraven)
-heavy flamer with psyflame and multi-melta

fast attack
stormraven
-twin-linked multimelta and twin-linked lascannon.
stormraven
-twin-linked multimelta and twin-linked lascannon.
stormraven
-twin-linked multimelta and twin-linked lascannon.

transport
razorback twin-linked lascannon and searchlight

this list has been fun to use but seems to be focused a bit hard due to the small numbers of transports though the assault phase is amazing, being able to deepstrike a stormraven have them deploy troops then shoot all guns then assault (fixed the post to have the storm raven in the right place)

hq
crowe

troop
5man purifier squad
2x psycannon 3xhalberd
transport razorback with twin-linked lascannon.
5man purifier squad
2x psycannon 3xhalberd
transport razorback with twin-linked lascannon.
5man purifier squad
2x psycannon 3xhalberd
transport razorback with twin-linked lascannon.
5man purifier squad
2x psycannon 3xhalberd
transport razorback with twin-linked lascannon.
5man purifier squad
2x psycannon 3xhalberd
transport razorback with twin-linked lascannon.
5man purifier squad
2x psycannon 3xhalberd
transport razorback with twin-linked lascannon.

elite
venerable dreadnought
two twin-linked autocannon with psyammo
venerable dreadnought
two twin-linked autocannon with psyammo
venerable dreadnought
two twin-linked autocannon with psyammo
heavy support
dreadnought
two twin-linked autocannon with psyammo
dreadnought
two twin-linked autocannon with psyammo
dreadnought
two twin-linked autocannon with psyammo

bread and butter crowe the list works, though feels kinda boring considering everybody seems to be using this list now. ive seen versions of this list with a vindicare and to be honest i am not fond of the vindicare he seems way to hit or miss and he only really gets about 3 turns of use. had more luck with a full spam of dreads then splitting the focus.


hq
drago (storm raven)
librarian
-staff,-psybolt ammo,-teleport homer, -servoskulls,-4xpowers (storm raven)

troop
paladin squad ten man uncombat squaded (port in)
with psyammo
psycannon/halberd
psycannon/halberd
psycannon/halberd
psycannon/halberd
apothecary/ staff
stormbolter/hammer
stormbolter/banner
stormbolter/halberd
stormbolter/halberd
stormbolter/halberd

paladin squad 2 (stormraven)(port in)(drago)
with psyammo
psycannon/halberd
psycannon/halberd
stormbolter/halberd
stormbolter/halberd
stormbolter/hammer

paladin squad 3 (stormraven)(port in)(lib)
with psyammo
psycannon/halberd
psycannon/halberd
stormbolter/halberd
stormbolter/halberd
stormbolter/hammer

solo paladin squad
faichions

solo paladin squad
staff

fast attack
stormraven gun ship
multimelta
lascannon
stormraven gun ship
multimelta
lascannon

a typical stormraven dragowing list this list is godly against all comers lists but tends to have a crazy ruff time with tau.

hq
Coteaz (squad one)
ordo malleus inquisitor (squad two)
with terminator armour with psycannon and hammer

troop
squad one
8x psyker
3x servitors with plasma cannon
1x crusader
razorback with twin-linked lascannon

squad two
8x psyker
3x servitors with plasma cannon
1x crusader
razorback with twin-linked lascannon

squad three
8x psyker
3x crusader
1x warrior acolytes with metlabombs and bolter
razorback with twin-linked lascannon

squad four
8x psyker
3x crusader
1x warrior acolytes with metlabombs and bolter
razorback with twin-linked lascannon

squad five
8x psyker
3x crusader
1x warrior acolytes with metlabombs and bolter
razorback with twin-linked lascannon

squad six
8x psyker
3x crusader
1x warrior acolytes with metlabombs and bolter
razorback with twin-linked lascannon

elite
venerable dreadnought
two twin-linked autocannon with psyammo
venerable dreadnought
two twin-linked autocannon with psyammo
venerable dreadnought
two twin-linked autocannon with psyammo

heavy support
dreadnought
two twin-linked autocannon with psyammo
dreadnought
two twin-linked autocannon with psyammo
dreadnought
two twin-linked autocannon with psyammo

coteaz list that is all about the roll of the dice if the dice gods favor me that day it can be an amazing game or it can be perils all around lolz or nuking my self lolz just a list full of lolz
so guys let me know what you all think, what list would you guys take?
 
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#3 ·
Just a possible thought on the purifier stormraven list, if you where to lose the psyammo off the purifiers and the Libby and the lascannon off the razorback (and I think a servo skull, math headache) you could run 3 razorbacks with psyammo in support for some extra firepower and objective contesting.
 
#4 ·
Lascannons on Storm Ravens. Eegh. Not a fan.

Lascannons on Razorbacks...fine...ish, though Las/Plas is what I Prefer (well, I prefer just plain Psybolt-HB, but thats just me. :))

Your Psykers, I'm not a big fan of running them in groups of 8. It's overkill, though they do provide a railgun-type shot. If that's your intent, then they're just perfect. :)
I'll have to vote list 4. Partially because I love Inquisition lists, partially because you're using psykers. Which are always awesome.
 
#5 ·
i know you dont like the lascannons its just my pref and i can remember what ya told me in a post earlier and what you said is true i just really like dem lascannons they give me peace of mind against lots of armor floating around.
the psyker list is nice the large blast str 10 ap1 as1 is amazing and got back up crusaders and warriors for last man tank busting or point contesting or capture.



thanks for voteing btw
 
#7 ·
ain't nothing wrong with lascannons, the problem i see is people putting too much faith in them as reliable tank killers, imo the only "reliable" tank kill is a melta gun with 2d6 pen, lascannons and assault cannons have too much room for error, that doesn't mean either are bad and shouldn't be feilded.
My main issue with running full lascannon razorbacks is that else i could fit in if i took psybolt heabybolters, and wether i simply need that much AT, on the other hand with ur coteaz list anyone running mech lists will be screwed, and the sheer amount of large blasts and the versatility of psyfleman dreads does mean you can take both mechspam and horde lists on with a fair amount of ease.
 
#8 ·
so far from what ive gotten from you guys the psydread list is the way to go but i cant shake the feeling that crowe / stormravens would be the way to go. had lots of good games that are tilted in my favor due to the agressiveness of stormravens and haveing troops and elites that can take full advantage of them.
 
#9 · (Edited)
There's nothing wrong with lascannon at all, but for just about every concieveable reason to take them, Assault Cannons would probably do the job better, and offer more flexibility.


Edit for Clarification:

On Storm Ravens.
On Vehicles, it's fine for Lascannons, IMO. Especially Razorbacks who need the extra range to stay alive.
 
#10 · (Edited)
you win ckerensky ill run at least 3 games with assault cannons give them a good run against another greyknights list , a chaos space marine list and a ig list and ill see how things work out with dem assault cannons
+ a tau player that has it out for greyknights bad lolz you know who you are!

edit for army list for stormraven (crowe) changes


hq
crowe
librarian
(nemesis force sword, 3x servoskulls, 4x powers)

troops

purifier squad
ten man squads
(4x psycannon, 4x halberd, hammer, stave, psybolt ammunition.)

purifier squad
ten man squads
(4x psycannon, 4x halberd, hammer, stave, psybolt ammunition.)

purifier squad
ten man squads
(4x psycannon, 4x halberd, hammer, stave, psybolt ammunition.)

dedicated transport
Razorback
(assault cannon, psybolt ammunition)

fast attack
stormraven gunship
(twin-linked multi-melta, twin-linked assault cannon, psybolt ammunition)

stormraven gunship
(twin-linked multi-melta, twin-linked assault cannon, psybolt ammunition)

stormraven gunship
(twin-linked multi-melta, twin-linked assault cannon, psybolt ammunition)

heavy support

dreadnought
(twin-linked multi-melta, heavy flamer, psyflame ammunition)

dreadnought
(twin-linked multi-melta, heavy flamer, psyflame ammunition)

dreadnought
(twin-linked multi-melta, heavy flamer, psyflame ammunition)
 
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