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    Adepticon 1850 Championship list ideas

    Hello all,


    I'm going to Adepticon and I'm bringing GK to the championship, as I'm sure many many others are too.


    I'm not bringing a paladin deathstar list, or a Crowe Purifier Spam list, though those lists may be viewed as most effective, I like to do things differently.


    I like DCAs, especially delivered by stormraven. I'm wary of using a stormraven without The Shrouding, but am not totally sold on a librarian.


    Here are some ideas:


    List 1 - Cotaez and buddies


    HQ: Cotaez


    Troop:


    3x Meltagun Henchmen, Chimera - 97
    3x Meltagun Henchmen, Chimera - 97
    4x DCA, 2x Crusader, Hv Bolter Psybolt Razorback - 140
    10x Strikers, 2x DH, 2x Psycannon, Psybolts, Rhino - 300
    10x Strikers, 2x DH, 2x Psycannon, Psybolts, Hv Bolter Psybolt Razorback - 310


    Elite:


    10x Purifiers, 2x Hammer, 2x Psycannon, 2x Incinerator, 4x Halberd, Hv Bolter Psybolt Razorback - 328


    Fast:


    Stormraven - 205


    Heavy:


    Psyflemen Dreadnought - 135
    Psyflemen Dreadnought - 135


    This is the list I built trying to use a good quantit od power armor wounds, 2 10 man GK squads with psybolts, though a heavy investment of points, brings a large amount of killing power to the table.


    The Purifiers and the Strike squad with the Razorback hop in the Chimeras and the meltagunners hop in the razorbacks. The DCAs typically go in the stormraven, and I may combat squad the purifiers to go chimera/razorback, or incinerators in the stormraven... the shenanigans possible with ride swapping are endless... much more limited if I don't go first mind you, but Cotaez helps with that.


    Never used this list, but it has many componnents I like, and lots of vehicles...




    List 2 - I've got a hench....


    HQ: Cotaez


    Troop:


    5x Stormbolter Henchmen, Chimera w Searchlight - 91
    4x DCA, 1x Crusader, Heavy Bolter Psybolt Razorback w Searchlight - 126
    3x Meltagun Henchmen, Chimera, w Searchlight - 98
    3x Meltagun Henchment, Heavy Bolter Psybolt Razorback w Searchlight - 93
    10x Strikers, DH, 2x Psycannon, Psybolts, Rhino w Searchlight - 291


    Elite:


    5x Paladins, 2x Psycannon, Different loadouts - 315
    10x Purifiers, 2x Hammer, 2x Psycannon, 2x Incinerator, 4x Halberd, Hv Bolter Psybolt Razorback - 328


    Heavy:
    Psyfleman Dreadnought - 135
    Psyfleman Dreadnought - 135
    Psyfleman Dreadnought - 135


    I read a post from Jeske recently, suggesting that walking a unit of Paladins in front of your mech spam Cotaez list was an effective strategy. I'd like to try it, but I'm not sure if 5 Pallies are enough for that purpose, or if they'll just die... In this case the DCA unit is simply a counter charge unit sitting in their razorback.


    One less unit of strikers, and an Extra Dreadnought... I'm not sure about the stormbolter henchmen, may be better off taking basic henchmen and another crusader...


    List 3 - A Grand Idea


    HQ:


    Grandmaster, Sword, Psycho Grenades, Rad Grenades, Blind Grenades, Incinerator - 215
    OM Inquistor, Termi Armor, Psycannon - 80


    Troop:


    5x Strikers, Psycannon, Hv. Bolter Psybolt Razorback - 160
    10x Strikers, DH, 2x Psycannon, Psybolts, Rhino - 290


    Elite:
    6x DCA, 2x Crusader, Chimera - 175
    10x Purifiers, 2x Hammer, 2x Psycannon, 2x Incinerator, 4x Halberd, Hv Bolter Psybolt Razorback - 328


    Fast:
    Stormraven - 205


    Heavy:


    Psyflemen Dreadnought -135
    Psyflemen Dreadnought -135
    Psyflemen Dreadnought -135


    Trying to use a clost combat grandmaster to mess shit up with the DCA squad, riding in the stormraven. I don't know if its better to have a shooty Grandmaster on the ground for psychic communion, and a cc grenade caddy inquistor with the DCAs.... Purifiers jack the Chimera, or take a ride in the SR for Horde Priority cleansing.


    This list hasn't had as much thought put into it, but I think it has potential... less bodies though, and thats kinda scary...


    List 4 - He's got WHAT cover save?


    Cotaez - 100


    Troop:


    6x DCA, 2x Crusader, Chimera - 175
    3x Meltagun Henchmen, Chimera - 97
    3x Meltagun Henchmen, Chimera - 97
    10x Strikers, DH, 2x Psycannon, Psybolts, Rhino - 290


    Elite:
    Vindicare Assassin - 145
    Techmarine, Warding Stave, Rad Grenades - 125
    10x Purifiers, 2x Hammer, 2x Psycannon, 2x Incinerator, 4x Halberd, Hv Bolter Psybolt Razorback - 328


    Fast:


    Stormraven - 205


    Heavy:


    Psyfleman Dread - 135
    Psyfleman Dread - 135


    Always wanted to use the Vindicare assassin in 2+ reinforced cover.... Techmarine rides with DCAs in SR... The rest is pretty much the same... would like to use a GM in this list, but can't find the points...


    List 5 - HENCHMEN!!


    This one was something I posted a while ago, I've tried it once, and didn't do so hot vs guard....


    HQ:
    Cotaez
    Librarian, might, shrouding, sanctuary, warp rift - 170


    Troop:


    3x Plasma cannon Servitors, 4x Hotshotlasgun Henchmen, Razorback w Psybolts - 146
    5x Death Cult Assassin, 2x Arco Flagellant, 2x Crusader, Razorback with Psybolts - 185
    3x Meltagun Henchmen, Razorback with Psycannon - 127
    3x Meltagun Henchmen, Chimera - 97
    3x Plasmagun Henchmen, 2x Hotshot lasgun Henchmen, Chimera - 115
    10x Grey Knight Strikers, Psybolts, Hammer, 2x Psycannon, Rhino - 290


    Fast
    Stormraven, TL Lascannon, TL Multimelta - 205


    Elite
    Techmarine, Warding Stave, Blind, Rad and Psychotroke Grenades - 145


    Heavy
    2x Psyflemen Dreadnoughts - 270


    Overall, I'm just looking for advice on which list to take, and any changes y'all would make, I've got this week to practice...


    Thanks in advance for the help!


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    Wow, that's a lot of lists. Before I help you build your winning list, gotta know what models you have or can use. There's no point in helping with your list only to give suggestions for models you don't have/can't get. Or should I assume you can build any type of GK list? The list I have in mind involves 2 stormravens filled with DCA/crusaders and grenade caddies.
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    I have available:

    4 Rhino/Razorbacks
    2 Chimeras
    1 Redeemer
    1 Stormraven
    3 Dreadnoughts
    6 meltagun henchmen
    3 plasmagun henchmen
    8 lasgun henchmen
    3 plasma cannon servitors
    6 death cult assassins
    2 crusaders
    2 arco flagellants
    1 techmarine
    20 grey knights, 4 hammers, 4 psycannons, swords on the rest
    5 paladins/terminators, 2 psycannon, mixed weapons
    13 purifiers, 4 incin, 2 psy, 2 hammer, 5 halberd
    1 vindicare
    1 grandmaster w sword and changable gun arm
    1 librarian
    cotaez
    1 psycannon termi armor inquisitor
    1 other inqisitor model (could be any inquisitor not in termi armor)

    So... given what I have available, I thnik the lists I put up are good jumping off points...

    The issue is that with the time crunch to get to the tournament (1 week tomororw) and I still have so many reneagades to paint for the team tourney (painting thread here) that I don't think I can paint up anything more for the GK

    Thanks in advance for your advice/help!

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    In that case, I'm going to go with list #2 (w/paladins). I don't usually like single-raven lists as I think they are too easily shot down. If you want to use ravens, I think you should go with 2 (along with 2 units of DCA+Crusaders), but since this involves models you don't own/have, then I'm just going to go with the paladin list.

    Paladin can/should steal one of the chimeras. Also, swap out the psyback for a rhino for your purifiers in order to be able to fit them all. Lastly, consider dozer blades for your rhinos.
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    +1 to the dozers, they have won me many a game Although I have a tendancy to roll a 1 followed by another 1

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    Thanks for the advice guys, but none of my vehicles are modeled with dozer blades...

    What about something like these lists:

    Grandmaster, Psycannon, Rad Grenades, Blind Grenades, 1 mastercraft - 245
    Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor, Psyocculum - 50

    3 Plasma Servitors, 6 Naked Henchmen, Chimera - 139

    10x Strikers, 1 Hammer, 2 Psycannon, Psybolts, Rhino - 290
    6 Strikers, Hammer, Psycannon, Razorback w Psybolts - 170

    5x Paladins, 2x Psycannon, Different loadouts - 315
    6 Purifiers, 2 Incinerator, Hammer, 3 Halberd, Razorback w Psybolts - 205

    3x Psyflemen - 405

    11 points to spend

    Trying to play the meta and bring anti-GK in the form of the psyocculum plasma cannon unit. I am not sold on the small purifier unit, and would consider just bumping the smaller strike squad up to 10... I'm nervous of using so few troops.

    Or

    Grandmaster, Psycannon, Blind Grenades - 225
    Cotaez - 100

    3x Meltagunners, Chimera - 97
    3x Meltagunners, Chimera - 97
    10x Strikers, 2 Psycannon, Hammer, PSybolts, Rhino - 290
    3 Plasmagunners, 1 Naked Henchmen, Razorback w Psybolts

    6 Purifiers, 2 PSycannon, HAmmer, 3 Halberd, Razorback w Psybolts - 225
    5 Paladins, 2 Psycannon, Different Loadouts - 315

    3x Psyflemen Dreads - 405

    1850 on the dot...

    In this list the plasmagunners stay in reserve, but their transport starts on the table, for some meltagunners to ride in after giving their chimeras to the paladins and purifiers. Cotaez helps get turn 1 to do the deploy shenanigans...

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