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The Best models in 40K are the GK Termies and So I've fielded as many as I could buy. I hate tooling up anything with wargear so the list is a little barren and I think it needs a little work. Remeber Termies are key for my theme.
-> Grand Master (do I really need to kit him out?) 145 pts
-> Retinue of 7 Termies 322 pts
->(Possibly a Brother-Captain with 7 Termie Retinue) 383 pts
-> Brother Cpt. with a 7 man Termie Squad (X2) 383 pts(x2)
-> Grey Knights 8 man squad (x2) 125 pts (x2)
one squad mounted in a Land Raider with Teleport Homer 10 pts
-> Abovementioned Land Raider 250 pts
-> GK Dreadnought with Twin Linked Las / Missile Laucher 140 pts
TOTAL 1883 pts
with extra HQ and Termies 2266 pts!!!!!
How do you think i can round this out?
I'm going to say this once: GKT aren't good enough to build as an army list. Ok, good, got that out of my system. I'll try and critique this as a normal list, so bear with me ^_^He's the heaviest hitter in your army, so an Icon could be useful. He has BS5, so a psycannon (stable platform) or Scourging (plus a second one-handed weapon for the +1A) could be handy. If you have a chance of facing Chaos, Incense is awesome. But I wouldn't give him all of that at once. Maybe spread some of it around to other IC's in the list.-> Grand Master (do I really need to kit him out?) 145 pts
-> Retinue of 7 Termies 322 ptsYou cannot take two GK Heroes, so you'll only get one HQ choice here. But of course, you can make this an Elite choice without any problem.->(Possibly a Brother-Captain with 7 Termie Retinue) 383 ptsNow, you're making this list more boring than it needs to be. GKT have a free upgrade they can take, a Thunderhammer/SS combo. Why not make one of these squads a bit more of an anti-tank unit? You could give the squad's BC a Chainfist (drop the stormbolter, NOT the NFW, so that he'll even get +1A for it) and take 4-5 Thunderhammers in the squad. You're low on anti-tank as it is...-> Brother Cpt. with a 7 man Termie Squad (X2) 383 pts(x2)
...Alternately, and probably a better choice, would be to put a single TH/SS combo into EACH GKT unit you're taking. That way, if said unit gets caught in a fight against a Dreadnought (especially an AV13 Chaos Dread) or a TMC, they're on slightly better footing. A dedicated TH/SS unit may be overkill, but I'd definitely put a few of them in this list.
Also, why don't you have a single special weapon? I know they're on the expensive side, but they're worth it! I'd put a single psycannon in 1-2 of these GKT units, and maybe an incinerator in one of them as well. GKT won't be able to spend all of their time in combat, remember - most enemies would attempt to steer clear of them, once the shock of Deepstriking fades. And since GKT count as stable platforms, you can have that 36" range all the time...225pts, NOT 125pts.-> Grey Knights 8 man squad (x2) 125 pts (x2)
If you don't mind using a list that isn't pure GK, I'd actually swap these units out for two IST squads. Put both IST squads in Chimeras, and give them 2x meltaguns or 2x plasma guns. That would give you significantly more firepower and anti-tank, as well as freeing up a good chunk of points that can go back towards your GKT units. You'll also have TWO units with Homers and in transports, which helps out a bit. Heck, paint 'em in silver carapace armor and call them thralls, if you don't like the idea of a mixed force.If you're going to make a GKT force, you should include an LRC. It's the quintissential assault vehicle, really. If you can afford both, cool. If not, your call which you take. Extra armor, smoke, and searchlights, though!-> Abovementioned Land Raider 250 ptsExtra armor, smoke, searchlights! I'd also pay for an H/K Missile, just because you'll need to take out enemy tanks asap with this list to survive.-> GK Dreadnought with Twin Linked Las / Missile Laucher 140 pts
Last edited by mEGALOMANIAC; August 21st, 2005 at 01:00.
On a grandmaster I wouldnt suggest the Icon its the cost of a whole GK just for 1+ invurnuable save, LRCs are essential and badass looking, other that that I agree with mEGALO
if you playing a friendly game, then maybe take brothercap. stern as another HQ slot, its legal with other grey knight heros.