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    [1850] Deathwing - Tournament List

    I was inspired by the armies in the new WD. I have always been facinated by an all Termy army, but never had the will to make it so. That will was brought upon by the pages in the new WD. Please with all criticism look at this list and advise me on how to make it more competative. I'm finally getting back to the good side of marines. My Deathguard army has done me very well in the past year but its time for a change. Here you go:

    HQ-
    Epistolary Librarian-174
    -Force weapon
    -Termy armour
    -Fear of the Dark
    -Fury of the Ancients
    -Stubborn
    -Stormbolter
    --IN LANDRAIDER CRUSAIDER WITH ASSAULT SQUAD

    ELITE-
    Venerable Dreadnought-170
    TLLC/DCCW and Stormbolter
    -Extra armour
    -Tank hunter

    Dreadnought-135
    Assaultcannon/DCCW and Stormbolter
    -Drop pod

    TROOP-
    Deathwing Termy Squad 1-295
    2X Stormbolter/Power fist
    2X Assault cannon/Power fist
    1X Sergeant Stormbolter/Power weapon
    -Stubborn
    --Drop pod

    Deathwing Termy Squad 2-295
    2X Stormbolter/Power fist
    2X Assault cannon/Power fist
    1X Sergeant Stormbolter/Power weapon
    -Stubborn
    --Drop pod

    FAST ATTACK-
    Deathwing Termy Squad 3-290
    2X Cylcone/Stormbolter/Power fist
    2X Stormbolter/Power fist
    1X Sergeant Stormbolter/Power weapon
    -Stubborn
    -Tank hunters

    Deathwing Assault Termy Squad-215
    1X Sergeant LC/LC
    3X LC/LC
    1X Thunder hammer/Storm shield
    -Stubborn
    -Furious charge
    --IN LANDRAIDER CRUSADER

    HEAVY SUPPORT-268
    Landraider Crusaider
    -Smoke launcher

    TOTAL POINTS- 1842 (8 points left where could I possibly spend it?)
    TOTAL MODELS- 21
    DREADNOUGHTS- 2
    TANKS- 1
    DROP PODS- 3

    As you can see I have about 53 points to play with unless I added something wrong. Please take a look at the list to give me some pointers on making it competative with just about any army that is thrown at me. I don't know what I'll be facing but it could be anything. Just help me make it competative. Thak you in advance for your suggestions.
    ------I HAD TO EDIT THE LIST TO PUT THE CORRECT POINT VALUES IN------

    Last edited by Brother Captain Shadow Dragon; December 14th, 2005 at 16:27.

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    For a really sick command squad- take a commander with an 8 strong bodyguard armed how you please, then attach your librarian to it and throw it in the crusader (the squad will be pricey but OMG its hard).

    You will have a squad that will munch through anything anyone can throw at it (make sure the crusader is maxed out with gubbins)- I have faced a very similar squad to this many times and it absolutly rips me a new one, nothing short or a c'tan or greater daemon will stop it.

    Other than that it is a solid deathwing list.

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    Ok, a few suggestions.

    Replace the Assault squad with a 4 man termy command squad w/ 2 assault cannons

    Replace a drop pod squad with a cyclone squad.

    Drop the crusader, add another Termy squad, assault cannons or cyclones

    Give the Tank hunting dread a ML.

    All that should add up to about 30 Terminators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel1990
    Ok, a few suggestions.

    Replace the Assault squad with a 4 man termy command squad w/ 2 assault cannons

    Replace a drop pod squad with a cyclone squad.

    Drop the crusader, add another Termy squad, assault cannons or cyclones

    Give the Tank hunting dread a ML.

    All that should add up to about 30 Terminators.
    Some changes made per suggestions. I'm putting it in a second post that way the original is still there for others to give ideas:

    HQ-
    Epistolary Librarian-174
    -Force weapon
    -Termy armour
    -Fear of the Dark
    -Fury of the Ancients
    -Stubborn
    -Stormbolter
    --IN DROP POD WITH COMMAND SQUAD
    Command Squad (for Librarian)-250
    2X Assault cannon/Powerfist
    1X Storm bolter/Powerfist
    1X Sergeant Storm bolter/Power weapon
    -Stubborn
    --Drop pod

    Grand Master-150
    -Sword of Secrets
    -Storm bolter
    -Termy armour
    -Stubborn
    --IN DROP POD WITH COMMAND SQUAD
    Command Squad (for Grand Master)-250
    2X Assault Cannon/Powerfist
    1X Storm bolter/Powerfist
    1X Sergeant Storm bolter/Power weapon
    -Stubborn
    --Drop pod


    ELITE-
    Venerable Dreadnought-170
    TLLC/ML
    -Extra armour
    -Tank hunter

    Dreadnought-135
    Assaultcannon/DCCW and Stormbolter
    --Drop pod

    TROOP-
    Deathwing Termy Squad 1-295
    2X Stormbolter/Power fist
    2X Assault cannon/Power fist
    1X Sergeant Stormbolter/Power weapon
    -Stubborn
    --Drop pod

    Deathwing Termy Squad 2-295
    2X Stormbolter/Power fist
    2X Assault cannon/Power fist
    1X Sergeant Stormbolter/Power weapon
    -Stubborn
    --Drop pod

    FAST ATTACK-
    Deathwing Termy Squad 3-290
    2X Cylcone/Stormbolter/Power fist
    2X Stormbolter/Power fist
    1X Sergeant Stormbolter/Power weapon
    -Stubborn
    -Tank hunters


    TOTAL POINTS- 2009 (159 over 1850/any suggestions to fix this problem?)
    TOTAL MODELS- 25
    DREADNOUGHTS- 2
    DROP PODS- 5

    I think this set up is geared more towards 2000pt games, but I need some help. My this Deathwing stuff is hard. Even if it is hard to get going I can't wait to start playing once I get a list nailed down with all of your help. Thank you for any advice in advance.
    ------I HAD TO EDIT THE LIST TO PUT THE CORRECT POINT VALUES IN------
    Last edited by Brother Captain Shadow Dragon; December 14th, 2005 at 15:58.

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    Please take a look at both lists and give me suggestions to get them going. They both have been edited with proper point values I think. Thank you in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Outsider
    For a really sick command squad- take a commander with an 8 strong bodyguard armed how you please, then attach your librarian to it and throw it in the crusader (the squad will be pricey but OMG its hard).

    You will have a squad that will munch through anything anyone can throw at it (make sure the crusader is maxed out with gubbins)- I have faced a very similar squad to this many times and it absolutly rips me a new one, nothing short or a c'tan or greater daemon will stop it.

    Other than that it is a solid deathwing list.
    So your saying a Commander/Librarian/and 6 terminators in a crusader? I think I miss read your post. I think a crusader can only hold 8 terminators. If I'm wrong then school me. So in my crusader I will have:
    --Grand master- SOS,storm boltertermy armour,stubborn
    --Epistolary librarian - Force weapon,storm bolter,termy armour,FOD and FOA
    --2X assault cannon/powerfist,stubborn
    --4X storm bolter/powerfist,stubborn
    --Landraider crusader w/smoke launcer
    Grand total - 902 points (WOW!!!!!!)

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    Sorry you are right, only 8 (I thought ten, duh!).

    I told you its pricey and kind of all your eggs in one basket, but when its 14 armour baskets its preety hard to stop and for 902 points it ought to be.

    Don't take that configuration for every battle that is more of a power gaming tactic but on a 4'x4' it is devastating as little can stop it and its shooting is only bettered by its CC, if you can give the squad furious charge(I'm not sure if you can) and give the librarian a familiar he can strike at I7!

    Its a powerful tactic when it works so its not great against brightlance toting eldar but otherwise it pratically can't be stopped.

    Try it out in some friendlies and see how it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Outsider
    Sorry you are right, only 8 (I thought ten, duh!).

    I told you its pricey and kind of all your eggs in one basket, but when its 14 armour baskets its preety hard to stop and for 902 points it ought to be.

    Don't take that configuration for every battle that is more of a power gaming tactic but on a 4'x4' it is devastating as little can stop it and its shooting is only bettered by its CC, if you can give the squad furious charge(I'm not sure if you can) and give the librarian a familiar he can strike at I7!

    Its a powerful tactic when it works so its not great against brightlance toting eldar but otherwise it pratically can't be stopped.

    Try it out in some friendlies and see how it works.
    They can have furious charge plus the familiar would bring the total up to, ready for this -
    --Grand master- SOS,storm boltertermy armour,stubborn,furious charge
    --Epistolary librarian - Force weapon,storm bolter,termy armour,FOD and

    FOA,furious charge,familiar
    --2X assault cannon/powerfist,stubborn,furious charge
    --4X storm bolter/powerfist,stubborn,furious charge
    --Landraider crusader w/smoke launcer
    Grand total - 936 points (WOW!!!!!!)
    GOOD NIGHT WHAT A DEVISTATINGLY EXPENSIVE UNIT!!!!
    Last edited by Brother Captain Shadow Dragon; December 14th, 2005 at 19:48.

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    As I said it is riduculously expensive but as you have a deathwing list your shooting is high anyway so that gives you an uber unit in a balanced list (as terminators dish out so much shooting), it may work it may not but IMO for a tournament list the enemy is going to need some serious firepower to stop it.

    I would do it just to see an opponent face when you charge that squad into their unit and you tell them how many strength 9 attacks and strength 5 attacks you get, they will probably kiss half their army goodbye when that makes combat.

    Whether you use it is up to you but it would be fun to try.

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    HOW ABOUT THIS FOR A 2000pt GAME? THIS IS GOING TO BE CRAZY!!!!!

    HQ-
    Epistolary Librarian-187

    -Force weapon
    -Termy armour
    -Fear of the Dark
    -Fury of the Ancients
    -Familiar
    -Furious charge
    -Stubborn
    -Stormbolter
    Grand Master-153
    -Sword of Secrets
    -Storm bolter
    -Termy armour
    -Furious charge
    -Stubborn
    Command Squad (for Librarian)-328
    2X Assault cannon/Powerfist
    3X Storm bolter/Powerfist
    1X Sergeant Storm bolter/Power weapon
    -Furious charge
    -Stubborn
    Landraider Crusaider-268
    -Smoke launcher

    ELITE-
    Venerable Dreadnought-170

    TLLC/ML
    -Extra armour
    -Tank hunter

    TROOP-
    Deathwing Termy Squad 1-295

    2X Stormbolter/Power fist
    2X Assault cannon/Power fist
    1X Sergeant Stormbolter/Power weapon
    -Stubborn
    --Drop pod

    Deathwing Termy Squad 2-295
    2X Stormbolter/Power fist
    2X Assault cannon/Power fist
    1X Sergeant Stormbolter/Power weapon
    -Stubborn
    --Drop pod

    FAST ATTACK-
    Deathwing Termy Squad 3-290
    2X Cylcone/Stormbolter/Power fist
    2X Stormbolter/Power fist
    1X Sergeant Stormbolter/Power weapon
    -Stubborn
    -Tank hunters

    TOTAL POINTS- 1986 (14 points left where could I possibly spend it?)
    TOTAL MODELS- 23
    DREADNOUGHTS- 1
    TANKS- 1
    DROP PODS- 2

    HOW CRAZY IS THIS? I faced a 1500 point Ork speed freak army with a 750+ point HQ. My that thing was tough to get at with my Tyranids. But this is a 900+ point HQ squad, but how devistating could this be? What do you think of this list now?

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