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After posting my 1500 point list only to find it's rather hopeless, and then a revision equally as hopeless. iv decided to make one last attempt at a better list with the same models i already have & maybe a new HQ. perhaps leaving afew points-heavy models out (like the landraider) to make it a smaller 1000-1250 pt army but more effective pound-for-pound.
(leaving out my special characters as suggested --ezekial & asmodai)
i will buy a librarian or chaplain (im open to suggestions on which one and also what upgrades to give it)
Commander (lib or chap)+ command squad including:
Company champion w/ power sword, combat shield & BP
Serg w/ CCW & Plasma pistol or Bolt pistol
Marine w/ CCW & BP x2
Marine w/ melta gun
THey are basically kitted out for CC/assult so i will give them a Drop pod too.
TROOPS (3 tactical squads, 2 shooty, 1 assult)
Tac squad (6 man Shooty)
Tac squad (6 man shooty)
Same as above but with lascannon instead of plasma cannon
Tac squad (8 or 10 man Assult-type)
Ser w/powerfist & BP
(could make this a 10 man if its better that way for assult/CC?)
here i have 2 choices:
a) A dreadnaught w/ Assult Cannon & Powerfist, extra armour & drop pod. (not venerable)
b) DW terminator squad: 5 man
Serg w/ powersword & storm bolter
1 storm bolter & chainfist
1 storm bolter & powerfist
1 assult cannon and powerfist
1 assult cannon & chainfist
(perhaps with a drop pod seeing as im leaving out the landraider. unless im told otherwise)
Since its a small army i would assume i should only use one of thses options. but if both would be good? then i can?? let me know.
Lanspeeder Typhoon. ive been told these are no good (wish i knew that BEFORE i got it and finished it) . so i am thinking of taking off the missile pods and putting the hatches back over the holes to use it as a normal landspeeder w/heavy bolter. then hopefully in future get my hands on an assult cannon to mount on the front to make it a tornado
(fortunately i painted it in Ravenwing scheme so this would pose no problem)
Dev squad, 8 man
4 missile launchers
Serg with either a bolter or CCW & BP
(as stated earlier i have a landraider but have been advised to leave it out of a small force)
THats basically it.
I will point out that these models are existing and completed, so the list can be shuffled around with what i *already* have, but the only new thing im willing to get at the moment is a commander (to avoid using my special characters)
basically you dont need to totally re-make this list as is the usual.
I maily want to know if this list is any better than my last 2. so.. is it any good?lol and also any opinion on what commander to get & with what gear. and what choice to make with my elites.
Sorry i should also point out this is NOT a tournament list. Just a friendly weekend games list
I know 99% of ppl will say use a chaplain, i think librarins go better with DA. Go with artificer, bolt pistol, fury of ancients, familiar, termie honoursOriginally Posted by DA_recruitNot bad at all, but try to find a pwr weapon or fist for your sarge. (jack one off a friend if need be)Originally Posted by DA_recruit
otherwise, looks goodLooks great!Originally Posted by DA_recruitOnce again, A ok!Originally Posted by DA_recruitLooks good, not bad at all! Go with 10 manOriginally Posted by DA_recruit
22 marines is still a bit low, but should be fine for up to 1500ptsIf you use a dread, try and get a plasma cannon arm (make one if need be) take advantage of the fact only DA dreads can have them. Both units look good, but the big difference is their point values, so i cant compare them. Also, dont use the chainfists, or if theyre already on count them as normal powerfistsOriginally Posted by DA_recruit
Yup, try to convert your speeder back into a tornado, because DA have the best speeders out there with the multi melta, assault cannon combo.I'm not a fan of devies cuz everyone uses them but it'll do what you need them to do in this list... kill tanks.Originally Posted by DA_recruit
to sum it up....
You finally have a good competitive list. It should be able to take down any threats, i like how now your units are specialized for a purpose. Good job
2000pts Orks 4-2-1
mmmm...i would be very very tempted to buy a few more speeders., if I was you. This list also seems a little small for 1500 points.
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yeah i was thinking i need more fast attack. if i can successfully convert my typhoon back to a tornado then i will get another tornado too. or if not then i might go with a RW bike squadron with attack bike.
I still have the multimelta for the Speeder so if i CAN manage to get an assult cannon then i will take off the HB and put the melta on. Although im doubtful about whther a fragile speeder could get close enough to a tank without getting destroyed before it can use the melta.. i dunno though, ill think of something.
hey if anyone knows where i could get my hands on a spare assult cannon for my speeder then PLEASE let me know. ie if theres any blister packs etc..
(Thanks for the feedback, im really glad to hear that i finally have a decent list. i was little heart broken when i put so much time & money into my army only to be told it was cr*p. so im pleased that i could salvage a decent list out of it without getting rid of too much
for anyone else reading it i should also point out that i have these units spare:
Marine w/ heavy bolter
I don't really have anything to add to the above posters, they both have good advice/ideas. I'm glad to see that you decided to give it another attempt (3rd times the charm, eh?) It's not easy to make a good list (unless you are a vet who's played for ages) it took me many tries to come up with a decent army list for my marines, so don't give up
Did you try either of your previous lists? If so who against? I find a lot of the help around here non of the people here so far will tell you how to power game so make sure to try your lists first, if they don't work add some of the suggestions that people have made.
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nah im far from being an experienced vet, i only started collecting again in late 05 and am yet to play any games. but now that my army is basically finished ill be playing against a guy at work who has a choas SM army. Which will probably mop the floor with me..
So bcoz i have no real gaming experience yet i just listen to what others here have to say and trust that they know what theyre talking about..
I dont think my initial lists were as terrible as they were saying.. but i can understand where they were coming from with most things..like the landraider being too points-heavy for a small battle etc etc etc.
With my next army (wont be SM's) ill do all this BEFORE i collect it lol so it will alot more competetive right from the word go. and once im more in-tune with the rules and have some game experience under my belt, i might even try my luck at a tournament after some more fine tuning
no idea about the assault cannon, but you might want to consider buying a combat squad to put some more meat in your infantry. 20 bucks is pretty cheap and will let you add 2 marines to each shooty squad plus another meatshield for your command squad. And dont obther with the apothacary or standard bearer, go with more meatshields instead.
2000pts Orks 4-2-1
Good idea. I actually have some old ultramarines left over from when i played as a youngster. i can strip the cr*ppy paint job off of them and re-do them as DA.
FREE is even cheaper than 20 bucks ;p lol
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