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    1500 pt SoB - take 2

    Don't know if it's a good or bad thing that I got no critiques on the first army. I, as much as I want to field Sentinels, realized that it was more economical for me to field Stormtroopers unmounted (20 plastic cadians/catachan = 200 pts minimum as Stormtroopers, 120 pts minimum as an incomplete platoon of Guard). With that in mind, here is a second attempt. PLEASE comment!

    1500 pts army

    HQ
    Canoness
    Litanies of Faith
    Jump Pack
    Cloak of St Aspira
    Blessed Weapon
    Bolt Pistol
    -------------------------------
    141 pts


    Elites
    9 Sisters Repentia
    Mistress
    --------------------------------
    210 pts

    I just like the idea. *shrug*


    Troops
    10 Battle Sisters
    Flamer
    Storm Bolter
    Imagifier upgrade
    Veteran Sister upgrade
    Eviscerator for Veteran Sister
    Bolt Pistol
    -----------------------------------------
    180 pts

    10 Battle Sisters
    Melta Gun
    Storm Bolter
    Imagifier upgrade
    Veteran Sister upgrade
    Eviscerator for Veteran Sister
    Bolt Pistol
    ---------------------------------------
    184 pts

    10 Stormtroopers
    Meltagun
    Grenade Launcher
    ----------------------------
    120 pts

    10 Stormtroopers
    Meltagun
    Grenade Launcher
    ----------------------------
    120 pts


    Fast Attack
    6 Seraphim
    Twin Inferno Pistols
    Twin Hand Flamers
    Melta Bombs
    Veteran Sister upgrade
    Eviscerator
    Bolt Pistol
    --------------------------------
    213 pts

    5 Seraphim
    Twin Inferno Pistols
    Twin Hand Flamers
    Melta Bombs
    Veteran Sister upgrade
    Eviscerator
    Bolt Pistol
    --------------------------------
    187 pts

    I have a conversion idea in-mind for this squad. Could probably stand to be bigger, though.

    Heavy Support
    Exorcist Tank
    Extra Armor
    ----------------
    140 pts


    1500 pts, 6 faith

    Drawbacks vs earlier list: No celestians, fewer models, almost all anti-armor existing in 1 tank and 2 Seraphim squads vs 1 tank and 4 squads with a lascannon, may have to spend more for 1850 and 2000 pt armies (will doublecheck later) vs other lists.

    Advantages: +6 Seraphim (?), larger repentia squad, +1 exorcist, $290 before conversions (whirlwind replacing real exorcist) vs about $340 before conversions.

    Last edited by starscream; January 20th, 2006 at 20:47.

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    HQ
    Canoness
    Litanies of Faith
    Jump Pack
    Cloak of St Aspira
    Blessed Weapon
    Bolt Pistol
    -------------------------------
    141 pts
    Nice set-up here i think. But i don't think the litanies of faith is needed, and if you really want to scrounge points knock of the bolt pistol as you don't get an extra attack anyway but i guess if you arn' short by a point might as well keep it

    Elites
    9 Sisters Repentia
    Mistress
    --------------------------------
    210 pts

    I just like the idea. *shrug*
    Personally i wouoldn't use them, but if you like them no helping it. I would pick arco-flaggelants over these or not take them at all and bulk out the seraphim.

    Troops
    10 Battle Sisters
    Flamer
    Storm Bolter
    Imagifier upgrade
    Veteran Sister upgrade
    Eviscerator for Veteran Sister
    Bolt Pistol
    -----------------------------------------
    180 pts

    10 Battle Sisters
    Melta Gun
    Storm Bolter
    Imagifier upgrade
    Veteran Sister upgrade
    Eviscerator for Veteran Sister
    Bolt Pistol
    ---------------------------------------
    184 pts
    Nice mix and match in these squads though i would be concerned about being able to fire the meltagun and flamer during the game. It might be a nice idea to give these girls a transport of some kind for that extra speed.

    Oh yeh, this is just my personal preferance but if my sisters were foot slogging i would give three of them storm bolters and assign some other unit to anti-tank. Being able to fire 3 storm bolters shouldn;t be underated

    10 Stormtroopers
    Meltagun
    Grenade Launcher
    ----------------------------
    120 pts

    10 Stormtroopers
    Meltagun
    Grenade Launcher
    ----------------------------
    120 pts
    Good man, as inferior as they are to sisters the models are just so cool And grenade launchers too, a good weapon IMO and far underrated. Again i would worry about getting those meltaguns into play, in addition some chimeras would boost your fire capabilities a long way.

    Fast Attack
    6 Seraphim
    Twin Inferno Pistols
    Twin Hand Flamers
    Melta Bombs
    Veteran Sister upgrade
    Eviscerator
    Bolt Pistol
    --------------------------------
    213 pts

    5 Seraphim
    Twin Inferno Pistols
    Twin Hand Flamers
    Melta Bombs
    Veteran Sister upgrade
    Eviscerator
    Bolt Pistol
    --------------------------------
    187 pts
    I think you should move the inferno pistols so the smaller squad has all the anti-tank capabilites and bolster the squad with the two twin-flamers. This way when you use "divine guidance" for the flamer unit chances of you suceeding is greatly increased and both squads will be more sucessful in doing what they need to.

    Heavy Support
    Exorcist Tank
    Extra Armor
    ----------------
    140 pts
    Nice choice, but this being the only tank in your army it will attract lots of guns.

    In general I think you have a good jist of what the army is about, those above are only ideas for you to think about
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    Most of my choices are made based on what I can afford, even if 'afford' means a year from now. Thus why I'm lacking transports until I hit 2000 pts

    HQ
    Canoness
    Litanies of Faith
    Jump Pack
    Cloak of St Aspira
    Blessed Weapon
    Bolt Pistol
    -------------------------------
    141 pts

    Nice set-up here i think. But i don't think the litanies of faith is needed, and if you really want to scrounge points knock of the bolt pistol as you don't get an extra attack anyway but i guess if you arn' short by a point might as well keep it
    Didn't think a blessed weapon required both hands to carry, though? Or is it the Litanies that require a hand?

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    9 Sisters Repentia
    Mistress
    --------------------------------
    210 pts

    I just like the idea. *shrug*

    Personally i wouoldn't use them, but if you like them no helping it. I would pick arco-flaggelants over these or not take them at all and bulk out the seraphim.
    210 pts for unit at $30. Litanies are 20 pts? If so, it'd cost me $80 to fill out the seraphim squads. Ouch Might consider the archo-flaggalant option if I can afford them. Will need research and no army book handy atm.

    Troops
    10 Battle Sisters
    Storm Bolter
    Storm Bolter
    Imagifier upgrade
    Veteran Sister upgrade
    Eviscerator for Veteran Sister
    Bolt Pistol
    -----------------------------------------
    180 pts

    10 Battle Sisters
    Melta Gun
    Flamer
    Imagifier upgrade
    Veteran Sister upgrade
    Eviscerator for Veteran Sister
    Bolt Pistol
    ---------------------------------------
    184 pts

    Nice mix and match in these squads though i would be concerned about being able to fire the meltagun and flamer during the game. It might be a nice idea to give these girls a transport of some kind for that extra speed.
    Switched weapons around.

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    10 Stormtroopers
    Grenade Launcher
    Grenade Launcher
    ----------------------------
    120 pts

    10 Stormtroopers
    Meltagun
    Meltagun
    ----------------------------
    120 pts

    Good man, as inferior as they are to sisters the models are just so cool And grenade launchers too, a good weapon IMO and far underrated. Again i would worry about getting those meltaguns into play, in addition some chimeras would boost your fire capabilities a long way.
    Switched around again.

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    Fast Attack
    6 Seraphim
    2 Twin Hand Flamers
    Melta Bombs
    Veteran Sister upgrade
    Eviscerator
    Bolt Pistol
    --------------------------------
    213 pts

    5 Seraphim
    2 Twin Inferno Pistols
    Melta Bombs
    Veteran Sister upgrade
    Eviscerator
    Bolt Pistol
    --------------------------------
    187 pts

    I think you should move the inferno pistols so the smaller squad has all the anti-tank capabilites and bolster the squad with the two twin-flamers. This way when you use "divine guidance" for the flamer unit chances of you suceeding is greatly increased and both squads will be more sucessful in doing what they need to.
    Switched again

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    Heavy Support
    Exorcist Tank
    Extra Armor
    ----------------
    140 pts

    Nice choice, but this being the only tank in your army it will attract lots of guns.

    In general I think you have a good jist of what the army is about, those above are only ideas for you to think about
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by starscream
    Canoness
    Litanies of Faith
    Jump Pack
    Cloak of St Aspira
    Blessed Weapon
    Bolt Pistol
    -------------------------------
    141 pts
    Good

    Quote Originally Posted by starscream
    Elites
    9 Sisters Repentia
    Mistress
    --------------------------------
    210 pts
    Not bad, repentia are good, but u desperatly need a priest w/ power weapon and laspistol to go with them

    Quote Originally Posted by starscream
    Troops
    10 Battle Sisters
    Flamer
    Storm Bolter
    Imagifier upgrade
    Veteran Sister upgrade
    Eviscerator for Veteran Sister
    Bolt Pistol
    -----------------------------------------
    180 pts

    10 Battle Sisters
    Melta Gun
    Storm Bolter
    Imagifier upgrade
    Veteran Sister upgrade
    Eviscerator for Veteran Sister
    Bolt Pistol
    ---------------------------------------
    184 pts
    These squads look pretty good, but put the flamer and meltagun n one squad, and the 2 storm bolters in the other. Then in the storm bolter squad give the veteran a storm bolter as well. a power weapon will suffice for her as they are a more long ranged support squad.

    Quote Originally Posted by starscream
    10 Stormtroopers
    Meltagun
    Grenade Launcher
    ----------------------------
    120 pts

    10 Stormtroopers
    Meltagun
    Grenade Launcher
    ----------------------------
    120 pts
    Not a fan of storm troopers, but if you use them then have one squad with both meltas and the other with both nade launchers.

    Quote Originally Posted by starscream
    Fast Attack
    6 Seraphim
    Twin Inferno Pistols
    Twin Hand Flamers
    Melta Bombs
    Veteran Sister upgrade
    Eviscerator
    Bolt Pistol
    --------------------------------
    213 pts

    5 Seraphim
    Twin Inferno Pistols
    Twin Hand Flamers
    Melta Bombs
    Veteran Sister upgrade
    Eviscerator
    Bolt Pistol
    --------------------------------
    187 pts
    Good, but stick with hand flamers and no melta bombs. The eviscerator and krak nades will be plenty of AT for them.

    Quote Originally Posted by starscream
    Heavy Support
    Exorcist Tank
    Extra Armor
    ----------------
    140 pts
    perfect
    2000pts Orks 4-2-1

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    @starscream: It sounds like you are building the army, so I'll give you some advice (I wasted a lot of money on units that I'll never take off my shelf again).

    HQ
    1. Nice buildout on your Canoness. I would lose the Litanies (too expensive) and take a Book of St Lucius.

    ELITES
    2. Repentia look great, but they peform badly. I recommend you play a bunch of games with proxies before you buy them. Sometimes I will use mine as fanatics in a Zealot squad, but I won't use them as Repentia.
    3. Arcos are better.

    TROOPS
    4. I recommend two Meltaguns over Stormbolters or Flamers. It's kinda hard to find enough bitz, but they will out perform any other special weapons. Don't worry about being able to fire them.
    5. Imagifiers are wasted points. I love the way they look, but they are way too expensive for what you get.
    6. I also recommend a Bolter on your VSS instead of an Eviscerator. The strength of Sisters is that they are a cheap source of BS4 Bolters with 3+ armor. The more wargear you add the more expensive they are. Keep your SoB squads cheap.
    7. I love ISTs! I've found the best use of them is two 6-man squads (2 plasma guns) in a Chimera. They are fast, tough tanks that can put a dent into most enemy squads --plus they have a creamy filling of plasma death!

    FAST
    8. Seraphim are best at killing infantry. You should never send them after tanks -- hit and run is just too good. So I recommend Hand Flamers (and a Brazier of Holy Flame for your VSS). That gives you an amazing Divine Guidance with 3 flamers.
    9. Max out your Seraphim squad.
    10. Never take Meltabombs on them. They are too expensive and should never need to use them.

    HEAVY
    In a 1500pt army, you should have 2 Exorcists. Don't bother with Extra Armor.

    Best of luck!

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