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    Illustrator Extraordinair Adrian MalSeraph's Avatar
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    DA 1850 Tourney/Friendly

    Before reading this, please read my third post. Thank you.




    Hello yet again. I feel this list is solid but I am still open to suggestions and there may be holes I can't find.

    Master of Sanctity-Terminator Honors-Bolt Pistol-Jump Pack-Frag Grenades 137pts

    Assault Squad-Veteran Sergeant-Powerfist-2xPlasma Pistols-Stubborn 265 points

    Tactical Squad-Veteran Sergeant-Powerfist-Meltagun-Drop Pod 225pts

    Tactical Squad-Veteran Sergeant-Powerfist-Meltagun-Drop Pod 225pts

    Tactical Squad-Lascannon 90pts

    Tactical Squad-Lascannon 90pts

    Ravenwing Land Speeder Tornado-Assault Cannon 85pts

    Ravenwing Land Speeder Tornado-Assault Cannon 85pts

    Deathwing Terminator Squad-2xAssault Cannon-Chainfists 285pts

    Dreadnought-Venerable-Tank Hunters-Extra Armour 160pts

    Vindicator-Power of the Machine Spirit 155pts

    Scout Squad-Veteran Sergeant-Powerfist-Frag Grenades-Stubborn-BP's and CCW's 168pts

    1843pts

    This list comes out to 62 models (or if your picky about drop pods, 60) which is grotesque for Marines with a tank and walker. The basic plan for my list is to use the Dreadnought and Vindicator as fire magnets while the majority of my list charges forward. The two tactical squads will provide fire support.

    Any questions, comments, and concerns will be greatly appreciated.

    Peace

    Last edited by Adrian MalSeraph; May 12th, 2006 at 21:08.

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    ugh that is a hard format to read.

    It looks pretty good. However it seems to me that looking at the army it will be arrving in peice meal and end up destroyed peice by peice. For example looking at what starts on the board you will have your vindicator and your landspeeders targetted. After that its the assault squad.

    However if you can coordinate the attacks of all your units this list will do well.

    I'd like to see you in Order of The White Sword so come check us out

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    Sorry about that. Thats how my list looks on paper.

    Actually the only thing that waits to arrive is the drop pods so it is really not that bad.

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    Okay I found a problem with my own list. I'm 110 points over and I can't decide what to take out. After a decision is made can anyone suggest anything to get back around 1850.

    Plus I would like to stay around 60 models to make people go OOH and AHHH.

    Rep goes to those who help.

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    Master of Sanctity-Terminator Honors-Bolt Pistol-Jump Pack-Frag Grenades 137pts
    This dude is pretty nice, if you need points, you can make down grade him, that would save 15 points.

    Assault Squad-Veteran Sergeant-Powerfist-2xPlasma Pistols-Stubborn 265 points
    Your chaplain is unlikely to die during the game, thus the squad will already be fearless, so remove stuborn, now your up to 20 points saved.

    Tactical Squad-Veteran Sergeant-Powerfist-Meltagun-Drop Pod 225pts

    Tactical Squad-Veteran Sergeant-Powerfist-Meltagun-Drop Pod 225pts
    These cost 220, unless you bought stuborn but didnt list it, anyway, make them cost 220, you dont need stuborn on guys like these.

    30 points saved.
    Tactical Squad-Lascannon 90pts

    Tactical Squad-Lascannon 90pts
    k

    Ravenwing Land Speeder Tornado-Assault Cannon 85pts

    Ravenwing Land Speeder Tornado-Assault Cannon 85pts
    These cost 80 points, you get jink for free!

    40 points saved.


    Deathwing Terminator Squad-2xAssault Cannon-Chainfists 285pts
    Dont fight tanks in CC, espeically not with terminators, way to valuable to spend killing tanks. so remove the chain fists, thus another 10 points saves, for a total of 50.

    You have for some reason priced this squad to high, its cost with chainfists removed is 265, thus bringing your total to 60 points saved.

    Dreadnought-Venerable-Tank Hunters-Extra Armour 160pts
    Way over priced..
    This tanks costs 140 as is. I dont recommend you use it like this. Id take off the tank hunters, and probably venerable. A drop pod would be nice.

    With drop pod you save another 20 points so 80 total.

    Vindicator-Power of the Machine Spirit 155pts
    I really dont like this choice. Fiarly expensive for one S10 shot. Genreally, your only going to get one shot off with it, maybe two with power of the machine spirt.

    Very difficult to get your points back with this. I suggegt you field something else, typically not a tank, as none tanks work much better for DAs. Such as devs, this is because incratable insures you will never fall back, and only stop shooting if your pinned, which is very unlikely.

    Scout Squad-Veteran Sergeant-Powerfist-Frag Grenades-Stubborn-BP's and CCW's 168pts
    I dont like this choice either.

    Scouts and drop pods dont work very well together.
    Its wierd i know, but the problem with scouts is they are weaker then marines, and start closer then anything else. Thus, they get picked on by small arms fire, such as enemy bolters ext. Basically, youve removed the advantage of first strike given to you by the drop pods. That is, your opponent will be able to use his general weapon on you, before you can return fire, thats bad for you, its also why drop pods are so good.

    Remove both these units would solve your point problems, id suggest you replace them with A) another drop pod

    a dev squad.

    Finally, you field nothing which really warents the use of DAs. You dont have enough sationary shooty squads to take advantage of there rules. Thus ultra marines, or better yet trait mairnes would serve you better, unless you doubled the number of LST your taking.

    Peace

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    Rep for you.

    Many suggestions. I hope I can make it better. Tourney this Sunday. I also hope to use this for the campaign.

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    Finally

    Okay here's my list. It did fairly well at they tourney on Sunday. But not as well as I hoped.

    Master of Sanctity
    Terminator Honors
    Bolt Pistol
    Jump Pack
    Frag Grenades
    137pts

    Assault Squad
    Veteran Sergeant
    Powerfist
    2xPlasma Pistols
    260pts

    Deathwing Terminator Squad
    2xAssault Cannon
    Land Raider Transport
    Extra Armor
    Smoke
    Searchlight
    Dozer Blades
    544pts

    Ravenwing Landspeeder
    Assault Cannon
    80pts

    Ravenwing Landspeeder
    Assault Cannon
    80pts

    Tactical Squad
    Veteran Sergeant
    Powerfist
    Meltagun
    Stubborn
    Drop Pod
    225pts

    Tactical Squad
    Veteran Sergeant
    Powerfist
    Meltagun
    Stubborn
    Drop Pod
    225pts

    Tactical Squad
    Lascannon
    90pts

    Tactical Squad
    Lascannon
    90pts

    Dreadnought
    Extra Armor
    110pts

    Total
    1849pts

    I know I'll get comments about the Land Raider but it did what it is supposed to do. It got my Terminators where they needed to be. That is all I'll say.

    Rep goes to those with suggestions and the such.

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