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    Blood Angels for UK GT 1500pts

    Going to the GT again this year, sort of torn over whether to take my guard army and risk not qualifying but have a laugh, or to take my BA's who have consistently done well and then take the guard for the fun of It to the finals :w00t:
    Anyhow my current list Is the one below, hasn't been playtested fully yet but should hopefully have all the usual bases covered with a nice balance of firepower/mobility/assault.
    If anybody has any comments on the list on how they might Improve on It, or beat It Into the ground please let me know!
    Cheers

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    Angels Wing 1500pts

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    Chaplain Reclusiarch (D3+3 DC)
    Terminator Honours
    Jump Pack
    Bolt Pistol
    Frags
    (232)

    TROOPS
    5 x Marines
    1 x Lascannon
    1 x Plasma
    Vet Sgt
    (115)

    TROOPS
    5 x Marines
    1 x Lascannon
    1 x Plasma
    Vet Sgt
    (115)

    TROOPS
    5 x Marines
    1 x Lascannon
    1 x Plasma
    Vet Sgt
    (115)

    ELITES
    1 x Furioso Dreadnought
    Heavy Flamer
    Extra Armour
    Smoke Launchers
    Drop Pod
    (143)

    FAST ATTACK
    8 x Assault Marines
    2 x Plasma Pistols
    Vet Sgt
    Power Fist
    (216)

    FAST ATTACK
    1 x Tornado
    Heavy Bolter / Assault Cannon
    (80)

    FAST ATTACK
    1 x Tornado
    Heavy Bolter / Assault Cannon
    (80)

    HEAVY SUPPORT
    Baal Predator
    Heavy Bolters
    Extra Armour
    Smoke Launchers
    (12

    HEAVY SUPPORT
    Predator Annihilator
    T-L Lascannon
    Heavy Bolters
    Extra Armour
    Smoke Launchers
    (13

    HEAVY SUPPORT
    Predator Annihilator
    T-L Lascannon
    Heavy Bolters
    Extra Armour
    Smoke Launchers
    (13

    (1500pts)

    FLAME ON!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadian7th

    TROOPS
    5 x Marines
    1 x Lascannon
    1 x Plasma
    Vet Sgt
    (115)

    TROOPS
    5 x Marines
    1 x Lascannon
    1 x Plasma
    Vet Sgt
    (115)

    TROOPS
    5 x Marines
    1 x Lascannon
    1 x Plasma
    Vet Sgt
    (115)
    ok I don't know about the BA's special rules off by heart but I think the points total on these squads is wrong. That, or I'm reading them wrong. Going by the standard codex, a seven man squad like this should cost 145 points, before any upgrades on the VS.

    Come to think of it, how many marines are in these squads? 7? 8?

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    You reaaly need to check your math that is complaetly worng.
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    I think he means 5 guys with a plasmagun and lascannon not 8.

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    Terminator Honours
    Jump Pack
    Bolt Pistol
    Frags
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    Looks pretty good a adaminte mantal would help.

    TROOPS
    5 x Marines
    1 x Lascannon
    1 x Plasma
    Vet Sgt
    (115)

    TROOPS
    5 x Marines
    1 x Lascannon
    1 x Plasma
    Vet Sgt
    (115)

    TROOPS
    5 x Marines
    1 x Lascannon
    1 x Plasma
    Vet Sgt
    (115)
    I see tons of people doing this. You need more than five guys in the squad if you have those two weapons and your vet. That leaves you two guys without thought to get rid of out of that squad at least seven guys in that squad no less.

    ELITES
    1 x Furioso Dreadnought
    Heavy Flamer
    Extra Armour
    Smoke Launchers
    Drop Pod
    (143
    I myself don't like furiosos but they are good at close combat and that's what blood angels are.

    FAST ATTACK
    8 x Assault Marines
    2 x Plasma Pistols
    Vet Sgt
    Power Fist
    (216
    Looks very good only thing is though you might want to switch power fist for a power weapon.

    HEAVY SUPPORT
    Baal Predator
    Heavy Bolters
    Extra Armour
    Smoke Launchers
    (12

    HEAVY SUPPORT
    Predator Annihilator
    T-L Lascannon
    Heavy Bolters
    Extra Armour
    Smoke Launchers
    (13

    HEAVY SUPPORT
    Predator Annihilator
    T-L Lascannon
    Heavy Bolters
    Extra Armour
    Smoke Launchers
    (13
    This list looks like it's mae for veersing heavily troops armys. Heavy support looks pretty good.

    Hope it helps. Just next time make it more clear on your guys.

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    ah right. If indeed they are squads like this:

    5 Marines: 1 VS, 2 w/ bolters, 1 w/ plasmagun, 1 w/ lascannon

    then your total for each squad is indeed 115 pts.

    Indeed.

    But, as an effective Marine unit, they are quite simply, fragile. As said, all your opponent would need to do is pump more than 2 wounds into the unit and you've got problems with your fire support.

    These squads need to be at least 6-men large.

    Rest looks good.

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    Drop the vet upgrades on our tac squads these squads shoulden't be getting into close combat but if you insist on keeping the vets at least take powerfists. Definatly keep the powerfist on the assault squad you don't want to be stuck against a dreadnaught with notheing to kill it. I agree on the extra marines. Maybe drop the smoke launchers. I LOVE your support choices and the chaplain.
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    HQ
    Chaplain Reclusiarch (D3+3 DC)
    Terminator Honours
    Jump Pack
    Bolt Pistol
    Frags
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    Looks fine.

    TROOPS
    5 x Marines
    1 x Lascannon
    1 x Plasma
    Vet Sgt
    (115)

    TROOPS
    5 x Marines
    1 x Lascannon
    1 x Plasma
    Vet Sgt
    (115)

    TROOPS
    5 x Marines
    1 x Lascannon
    1 x Plasma
    Vet Sgt
    (115)
    Id remove the plasma gun. This lowers there treat to the enemy, and will keep them scoring unts for longer because of it.

    Also, you can keep them shooting at what they should be shooting: tanks.

    ELITES
    1 x Furioso Dreadnought
    Heavy Flamer
    Extra Armour
    Smoke Launchers
    Drop Pod
    (143)
    Dont like this at all.

    Another assault squad would be much better. (which your a bit light on)

    FAST ATTACK
    1 x Tornado
    Heavy Bolter / Assault Cannon
    (80)

    FAST ATTACK
    1 x Tornado
    Heavy Bolter / Assault Cannon
    (80)
    Ok, these are ok, but another assault squad again would do much better.


    The other reason in below-

    HEAVY SUPPORT
    Baal Predator
    Heavy Bolters
    Extra Armour
    Smoke Launchers
    (12
    First id remove smoke from all these tanks, that includes the preds.
    Next, id make all these baal preditors.

    HEAVY SUPPORT
    Predator Annihilator
    T-L Lascannon
    Heavy Bolters
    Extra Armour
    Smoke Launchers
    (13

    HEAVY SUPPORT
    Predator Annihilator
    T-L Lascannon
    Heavy Bolters
    Extra Armour
    Smoke Launchers
    (13
    Consider this:

    Assuming your shooting an average tank, say 13 front armour-

    TL lascanon: .89 hits, .14 glancing/.305 penetrating

    Total destoryed: .02 + .15 = 17% chance of killing a 13 AV tank.
    Thats ok i guess.

    (you may not understand the math, but its basically 17% of your shots will kill a tank.)

    Compare that to a TL AC:

    4 shots, 3.56, .56 rending, .47 penetrating hits/.09 glancing hits
    .25 destoryed chance of destoryed an AV13 tank: 25%

    Thats better then the lascannon.

    And the AC is much better against lower AV AND AV 14

    Obvioulsy the AC is much better against infantry. So id take 3 Baals, and a second assault squad.

    Consider scouts.

    Good Luck
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    First id remove smoke from all these tanks, that includes the preds.
    Next, id make all these baal preditors.
    Why would you want to do that they are really only good at destroying troops. He should keep what he has.
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    Crusade: Can you read? I ask this because he just explained all the math and while i may not agree with everything he has to say even a 6 year old should be able to understand that. If he wants to do anything else against tanks he can always use his 3 tacticval squads However I do agree that you should drop the LSTs and maybe drop the dread to take an assault squad to back up your death company as it is you will only have 26-28 models on the board so you really need some more you will be out numbered by some deathwing builds as it is.
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