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    Anti-Tau. 2,100pts.

    Yeah. Hi. I'm facing a future Tau regular foe. So I decided my all-comers list, while nice, wasn't what I was looking for with the possibility of 2 railguns and a bunch of suits.

    We're pretty understanding about custom units and the use thereof, so, because of that, I'm using the full Liberty's Vanguard Codex (Codex: Liberty's Vanguard.) on him. He's got a bunch of specialty stuff too, so it works out.

    Despite this, I'm still going to also make a vanilla traits list with my usuals.

    Liberty's Vanguard
    HQ
    Librarian Joshuah Huetar - 199pts
    Prime with Force Weapon, Psychic hood, Bolt pistol, T Hon, Iron Halo, Jump Pack, Familiar, Frags.
    Furious Assault, FotA, FotD.

    Command Squad Astaroth - 406pts
    Captain Astaroth Demiurg - 136pts
    Detachment Lord with Power weapon, Frags, T Hon, Storm Bolter, Combat shield, & Bionics.
    Infiltrate.
    Sergeant with Powerfist, T Hon, & Bolt pistol
    Apothecary with T Hon, Power weapon, & Bolt pistol
    Champion with T Hon, Power weapon, & Bolt pistol
    Standard Bearer with T Hon, Power weapon, & Bolt pistol
    Marine with T Hon & Meltagun
    Infiltrate. 270pts

    Elites
    Adeptus Pessum Ire - 384pts
    Sergeant with Storm Bolter, & Chainfist
    2 Terminators with Thunder Hammer
    5 Terminators with Lightning Claws
    Furious Assault, Deepstrike

    Kentares IV - 250pts
    Drop Pod.

    Troops
    1st Young brothers - 198pts
    War Priest with Purity seals & Frags
    9 Scouts with Bolt pistol & Chainsword

    2nd Young brothers - 198pts
    War Priest with Purity seals & frags
    9 Scouts with Bolt pistol & Chainsword

    Fast attack
    1st Airborne - 165pts
    Sergeant with T Hon, Powerfist, & Bolt pistol
    2 Marines with Plasma pistol & Chainsword
    3 Marines with Bolt pistol & Chainsword
    Byakugan, Deepstrike.

    2nd Airborne - 155pts
    Sergeant with T Hon, Powerweapon, Meltabombs, & Bolt pistol
    4 Marines with Bolt pistol & Chainsword
    Byakugan.

    Raptors of Vengeance - 145pts
    Tornado pattern Land Speeder with Heavy Bolter & Assault Cannon
    Tempest pattern Land Speeder with Multi-melta

    Total = 2,100pts

    Traits
    + Trust your Battle-brothers
    + Heed the Wisdom of the Ancients
    - Eye to Eye
    - We Stand Alone
    HQ
    Command Squad Joshuah - 408pts
    Librarian Joshuah Huetar - 189pts
    Prime with Force Weapon, Psychic hood, Bolt pistol, T Hon, Iron Halo, Artificer armour, Familiar, Frags.
    Furious Assault, FotA, FotD.
    Sergeant with T Hon, Power weapon, Meltabombs, & Bolt pistol.
    Apothecary with Bolt pistol & Chainsword
    4 Marines with Bolt pistol & Chainsword
    2 Marines with Plasma gun
    Furious assault. 219pts

    Elites
    Adeptus Pessum Ire - 360pts
    Sergeant with Storm Bolter & Power weapon
    2 Terminators with Assault Cannons & Powerfists
    5 Terminators with Storm Bolters & Chainfists
    Deepstrike

    Deep darks - 248pts
    Sergeant with Power weapon, Meltabombs, Purity seals, Teleport Homer, & Bolter
    Marine with Meltagun
    Marine with Lightning Claws
    5 Marines with Chainswords
    True Grit, Counter-attack, & Infiltrate.

    Kentares III - 191pts
    Venerable Dreadnaught with Lascannons, Heavy Flamer, Extra armour, Searchlight & Drop pod.

    Troops
    5th Young brothers - 172pts
    Sergeant with T Hon, Power weapon, & Plasma pistol
    4 Scouts with Bolt pistol & Chainsword
    4 Scouts with Sniper rifle

    1st Hunters - 278pts
    Sergeant with T Hon, Powerfist, & Bolter
    Marine with Meltagun
    8 Marines with Bolter
    Rhino with Extra Armour & Smoke Launcher
    True Grit & Counter-attack.

    2nd Hunters - 278pts
    Sergeant with T Hon, Powerfist, & Bolter
    Marine with Meltagun
    8 Marines with Bolter
    Rhino with Extra Armour & Smoke Launcher
    True Grit & Counter-attack.

    Fast Attack
    1st Airborne - 265pts
    Sergeant with T Hon, Powerfist, & Bolt pistol
    2 Marines with Plasma pistol & Chainsword
    7 Marines with Bolt pistol & Chainsword
    Byakugan, Deepstrike.

    Raptors of Vengeance - 145pts
    Tornado pattern Land Speeder with Heavy Bolter & Assault Cannon
    Tempest pattern Land Speeder with Multi-melta

    Heavy Support
    Auron X - 190pts
    Venerable Dreadnaught with Multi-melta, Missile launcher, Furious assault, Extra armour, & Drop pod.

    Total = 2,100pts

    Critique either or both. Your call which.
    But PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK! :cry:

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    HQ
    Librarian Joshuah Huetar - 199pts
    Prime with Force Weapon, Psychic hood, Bolt pistol, T Hon, Iron Halo, Jump Pack, Familiar, Frags.
    Furious Assault, FotA, FotD.

    I think he is a bit on the expensive side, but he should do okay.


    Command Squad Astaroth - 406pts
    Captain Astaroth Demiurg - 136pts
    Detachment Lord with Power weapon, Frags, T Hon, Storm Bolter, Combat shield, & Bionics.
    Infiltrate.
    Sergeant with Powerfist, T Hon, & Bolt pistol
    Apothecary with T Hon, Power weapon, & Bolt pistol
    Champion with T Hon, Power weapon, & Bolt pistol
    Standard Bearer with T Hon, Power weapon, & Bolt pistol
    Marine with T Hon & Meltagun
    Infiltrate. 270pts

    This will kill broadsides. If they deploy 12" away behind cover and with no other unit able to kill them. Realistictly, there is a good chance that this squad will take damage before they get to attack broadsides. If your opponent iisn't taking broadsides at 2100 points, then he is taking hammerheads and you cant kill those with these guys. I would expect your opponent to take at least 3 though, because they are awsome. I think the unit still might be a bit expensive.

    Elites
    Adeptus Pessum Ire - 384pts
    Sergeant with Storm Bolter, & Chainfist
    2 Terminators with Thunder Hammer
    5 Terminators with Lightning Claws
    Furious Assault, Deepstrike

    Bring this squad down to five and add a drop pod. It really helps. Also, drop pods block LOS, so you have some instant cover.


    Kentares IV - 250pts
    Drop Pod.

    I dont know what this model has, but since your taking him, i will assume hes pretty good.

    Troops
    1st Young brothers - 198pts
    War Priest with Purity seals & Frags
    9 Scouts with Bolt pistol & Chainsword

    What do you plan to do with these? They are going to have a lot of trouble with AP 4 weapons, and the tau have a decent amount of those. They may get a charge in, but they will not kill fire warriors and the like as well as ML will.

    2nd Young brothers - 198pts
    War Priest with Purity seals & frags
    9 Scouts with Bolt pistol & Chainsword

    Same.

    Fast attack
    1st Airborne - 165pts
    Sergeant with T Hon, Powerfist, & Bolt pistol
    2 Marines with Plasma pistol & Chainsword
    3 Marines with Bolt pistol & Chainsword
    Byakugan, Deepstrike.

    2nd Airborne - 155pts
    Sergeant with T Hon, Powerweapon, Meltabombs, & Bolt pistol
    4 Marines with Bolt pistol & Chainsword
    Byakugan.

    Combine these squads to make one big squad, and stick the Libraian in that. Dont make small squads of assualt marines. Unless your taking them in a combat patrol.

    Raptors of Vengeance - 145pts
    Tornado pattern Land Speeder with Heavy Bolter & Assault Cannon
    Tempest pattern Land Speeder with Multi-melta

    The melta wont really do a whole lot, at least nothing an AC and HB cant do better. I would be careful with speeders when fighting tau because railguns penetrate speeders on a +1.

    Total = 2,100pts

    I think its okay, but you might want some more firepower. I would also like to point out that you are very point heavy in HQs and very light in troops.

    I will post more soon, after i take a look at some tau stuff. Oh, NEVER underestimate broadsides. +2/+4 saves are nasty, and they have S5 T4. But only WS3.

    I just looked at the list i think you are talking about facing(the one you posted in right?) and i think that both lists will do okay. I now see the purpose of the scouts and HQ squad. I think that with the leftover points from some of the changes i suggested, you should try to fit in another scout squad.
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    Tanks, will do.
    If you want to know what Kentares IV does, check out the link in the last post, the 3rd post in that thread has it all.
    War priests are in the 1st one.
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    Yeah, i like the warrior priests, very cool and fluffy. I think that they will kill all those fire warriors. I wonder about your opponent. Is he/she taking broadsides?


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    I don't think he is.
    If so, it'll be 1. 2 tops. And that's easy to beat with all those assaulters.
    The ideas behind these infiltrators is to rape the enemy of life in close combat. You know, not able to shoot in or out? That just robs the Tau of their good points and puts them in a position of many power weapons.
    Devious, I know.

    The Adeptus Pessum Ire will teleport in the middle of the malestrom of assault, make the token 2 shots, then go ballistic in close combat.

    Joshuah has backup of the smaller Assault squad as a meat shield, and he goes around at high speed, pinning the enemy at long range, then forcing a fallback for all those not being assaulted.

    Kentares is the answer to all Tau vehicles (and ALL vehicles for that matter).

    Thanks, I'll make the changes and repost... But what of the simple Trait army? Is it better or worse?
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