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    3000 points of Black Templars

    Since now one rplied to my last post, I posted it again because I really need to herer your advice becuae I am still fairly a new player to this game. PLZ RESPOND!!!!

    HQ:
    *Marshal Varnes: 146 points
    -w/PW,bolter-melta combo,terminator honnors,iron halo,frag grenades

    *Reclusiarch: 126 points
    -w/PP,Crozius Arcanium,rosarius,holy orb,frag grenades

    *Emporers Champion: 140 points
    -w/accept any challenge, no matter the odds

    Elites:
    *Dreadnought: 140 points
    -w/twin-linked lascannon,missle launcher,extra armor

    *Dreadnought: 140 points
    -w/twin-linked lascannon,missle launcher,extra armor

    *Sword Breathern Squad: 260 points (w/Marshal)
    -w/(2x)lightning claws,(8x)bp,ccw,furious charge

    Troops:
    *Crusader Squad "Alpha": 235 points (w/Reclusiarch)
    -w/(1x)PF,BP,(1x)meltagun,(8x)BP,CCW,(5x) neophytes w/BP,CCW

    *Crusader Squad "Bravo": 235 points (Emperors Champion)
    -w/(1x)PF,BP,(1x)meltagun,(8x)BP,CCW,(5x) neophytes w/BP,CCW

    *Crusader Squad "Delta": 265points
    -w/(1x)PF,BP,(1x)meltagun,(8x)BP,CCW,(8x)neophytes w/BP,CCW

    *Crusader Squad "Gamma":265points
    -w/(1x)PF,BP,(1x)meltagun,(8x)BP,CCW,(8x)neophytes w/BP,CCW,

    Fast Attack:
    Bike Squad #1: 240 points
    -w/(1x)PW,(2x)meltaguns,(2x)bikers,(1x)attack bike w/hvy. bolter (5x bikes,1x attack bike)

    Bike Squad #2: 240 points
    -w/(1x)PW,(2x)meltaguns,(2x)bikers,(1x)attack bike w/hvy. bolter (5x bikes,1x attack bike)

    *Land Speeder Tornado Squadron: 160 points
    -w/(2x)assault cannons,hvy. bolters

    Heavy Support:
    *Predator Annihilator: 138 points
    -w/twin-linked lascannon,hvy. bolter side sponsors,extra armor, smoke

    *Vindicator #1: 133 points
    -w/demolisher cannon,storm bolter,extra armor, smoke

    *Vindicator #2: 133 points
    -w/demolisher cannon,storm bolter,extra armor, smoke

    Last edited by ColonelMendez445; April 22nd, 2007 at 03:02.

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    ok I'm not really high on BT but there are some things that caught my eye.

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    I would reconsider the bolter/melta combi and exchange it for a regular bp to give him that extra attack in CC and instead put a regular meltagun on someone in his retinue.

    I would also reconsider that plasma pistol and swap it for a bp on the chaplain, as taking an unlucky wound would really bring me down ;> but a PP is ok too if you think its worth the chance. I have no idea what the holy orb does, or the effects of the EC, so I hope someone else can help you with that.


    ELITES:
    I don't see anything wrong with this, personally I'd be worried about the high cost on the Marshal squad as it's bound to take some wounds before they reach assault.

    TROOPS:
    The bolters in the first two squads make no sense for me, unless it's a BT special rule, these guys will either be useless or stop you from assaulting with the squad. Make these PP/CCW. Otherwise these squads seem to be fine.

    FAST ATTACK:
    2 meltaguns / squad seems a bit over the top, consider dropping one from each. Land speeders looking good.

    HEAVY SUPPORT:
    The Vindicator's are kitted out well, but I would smack some LC side sponsons on the pred as you would want to target vehicles with it.


    For me 3000pts is a HUGE point limit and some of your units are expensive (Bike Squads and Sword Brethren). I would consider dropping the Lightning Claws from the retinue and instead of having them as elites making them command squad (if thats possible) so theyre immediately attached to the marshal. I don't have my codex with me but I'm pretty sure they would be able to retain their Furious Charge.

    I'm worried about the survivability of the vindicators however, as they dont have long range and pose a significant threat if they do get in range, I'd suspect them to be quite the fire magnets. I have no idea if it's possible but I'd drop one of the bike squads and the alpha squad to give the chaplain an assault marine squad instead (can BT do this?) and throw some kind of Land Raider in there to be even more of a fire magnet than the vindicators so they can own it up.

    I hope I've been to some help atleast :> good luck with your list and I hope someone with a little more knowledge than me will find the time to help you out.

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    Just to let you know, there is no bolters, I just forgot to change it from an old army list and I did replace the Sword Bretheren Squad for another crusader squad. The plan is to have everything move up and the bike squads and vindicators support the crusader squads as they advance towards the enemy's position. The Pred also moves forward to support, hence the hvy. bolter side sponsors and my enemies tend to focus more on the horde of marines charging towards ther position . Here is the redo list:

    HQ:
    *Marshal: 146 points
    -w/PW,bolter-melta combo,terminator honnors,iron halo,frag grenades

    *Master of Sanctity: 156 points
    -w/PP,Crozius Arcanium,rosarius,holy orb,frag grenades,terminator honnors

    *Emporers Champion: 140 points
    -w/accept any challenge, no matter the odds

    Elites:
    *Dreadnought: 143 points
    -w/twin-linked lascannon,missle launcher,extra armor,smoke

    *Dreadnought: 143 points
    -w/twin-linked lascannon,missle launcher,extra armor,smoke

    Troops:
    *Crusader Squad: 245 points (w/Reclusiarch)
    -w/(1x)PF,BP,(1x)meltagun,(8x)BP,CCW,(6x) neophytes w/BP,CCW

    *Crusader Squad: 245 points (Emperors Champion)
    -w/(1x)PF,BP,(1x)meltagun,(8x)BP,CCW,(6x) neophytes w/BP,CCW

    *Crusader Squad: 245 points (w/Marshal)
    w/(1x)PF,BP,(1x)meltagun,(8x)BP,CCW,(6x)neophytes w/BP,CCW

    *Crusader Squad: 245points
    -w/(1x)PF,BP,(1x)plasma gun,(8x)BP,CCW,(6x)neophytes w/BP,CCW

    *Crusader Squad:245points
    -w/(1x)PF,BP,(1x)plasma gun,(8x)BP,CCW,(6x)neophytes w/BP,CCW

    Fast Attack:
    Bike Squad #1: 240 points
    -w/(1x)PW,(2x)meltaguns,(2x)bikers,(1x)attack bike w/hvy. bolter

    Bike Squad #2: 240 points
    -w/(1x)PW,(2x)meltaguns,(2x)bikers,(1x)attack bike w/hvy. bolter

    *Land Speeder Tornado Squadron: 160 points
    -w/(2x)assault cannons,hvy. bolters

    Heavy Support:
    *Predator Annihilator: 138 points
    -w/twin-linked lascannon,hvy. bolter side sponsors,extra armor, smoke

    *Vindicator #1: 133 points
    -w/demolisher cannon,storm bolter,extra armor, smoke

    *Vindicator #2: 133 points
    -w/demolisher cannon,storm bolter,extra armor, smoke

    TOTAL:2,997 points
    Last edited by ColonelMendez445; April 22nd, 2007 at 03:41.

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    sorry i havent replied sooner, havent been able to load site for a few days.

    it's looking good, i would still seriously consider the usefulness of the bolter-melta on the marshal though. it's not that useful since its a one time chance with the melta, and you already have a meltagun in the squad. you're also missing out on an useful extra attack in CC(where you want to be) that you get if you choose the BP instead.

    imho i think you would be better off with just the bolt pistol.

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